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Old July 25 2014, 12:27 AM   #1
JJohnson
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Enterprise Deck Plans

Hi everyone,

I'm in the midst of writing a few more updates to my New Prime series, and was wondering if anyone had any deck plans for the original, Constitution Class Enterprise, before refit. I found the Cygnus site and found the refit Enterprise, but the Franz Joseph plans aren't available to download. I have them (somewhere) in my closet, but it would be very helpful to have a digital copy I can reference when writing my story. I know TOS wasn't perfectly consistent, but that's what fanfics are for. If anyone could help with that, I would appreciate it greatly.

Thanks!
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Old July 25 2014, 03:35 AM   #2
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Re: Enterprise Deck Plans

Couldn't you do a screen grab if the download isn't available?

http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars...enterprise.php
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Old July 25 2014, 09:33 PM   #3
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Re: Enterprise Deck Plans

Now, in comparing the Strategic Designs, Franz Joseph, and the FASA 15mm deck plans, they're all differently arranged. In Strategic Designs, there are cargo holds in the saucer that you can't access by corridor, only by transporter. In FASA, there are small cargo holds on the transporter deck, and a real emergency bridge (not just a little tiny room off a corridor like we saw in TOS), but no place for engineering, which SD gets. FJ's plans have cargo holds that can actually be accessed by corridor, emergency bridge, and engineering decks.

The only real change I'm going to make for my story is to start the Enterprise bridge with 2 turbolifts from the beginning...that and three dorsal/ventral phaser banks, and engineering hull phaser banks and aft torpedo tube (serious gunnery blind spot to send a ship out with 1 phaser bank and 1 torpedo tube!). Everything else will be the same, externally.

As for the internals, have any of you found any of those plans entirely satisfactory for the TOS version of the Enterprise? Or have you mixed and matched? I've seen a few deck plans show up here, including one done in CAD, but that was TMP Enterprise.
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Old July 26 2014, 03:44 AM   #4
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Re: Enterprise Deck Plans

The forgotten trek website used to have a complete/near-complete set of images of the FJ blueprints, they were in the section about the original designing to the Enterprise by Matt Jefferies.

If the site still exists.

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Old July 26 2014, 06:20 PM   #5
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Re: Enterprise Deck Plans

i have cad drawings of the fj plans. i can give them to you if you have access to autocad or to a dxf viewer. i also have a copy that is the same but corrected for the many mistakes that were in the originals.
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Old July 26 2014, 06:24 PM   #6
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Re: Enterprise Deck Plans

i have included only one set of torpedo tubes and one set of phasers due to the fact that the ship can be turned in space quite easily. you need to remember the view screen is not a window but basically a large screen tv. (only better)
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Old July 27 2014, 02:52 AM   #7
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Re: Enterprise Deck Plans

astarguy1 wrote: View Post
i have included only one set of torpedo tubes and one set of phasers due to the fact that the ship can be turned in space quite easily. you need to remember the view screen is not a window but basically a large screen tv. (only better)
In Real Trek, you're 100% correct. Having a window would be a definite weak spot in a ship....oh wait... (lol)

I can understand that, but a ship decloaking, sitting aft, and firing could get off a shot quicker than the ship could turn. Aft torpedos and phasers would solve that issue. That's my concern. When I write, I'm essentially going to put the TMP phaser points/banks on the TOS Enterprise to give it full coverage.
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Old July 27 2014, 03:56 AM   #8
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Re: Enterprise Deck Plans

I'm just gonna throw this idea out there...



We've always seen the phaser beams on the TOS Enterprise come out of that metal ring just over the lower sensor dome. Matt Jefferies' background was in aviation, specifically World War II bombers. What did turrets in World War II airplanes do, besides firing?

They rotated.

So I'm thinking the whole metal ring (with phaser banks one and two behind hidden panels on either side of the forward protrusion, at eleven and one o'clock respectively, until needed) is the phaser turret and can rotate to hit any targets within a 200, 225 degree sweep. As only a direct pinpoint hit could take out the phasers (and only once shields are down), there's no need for any additional banks on the sides.

For the aft blind spot...



Another metal ring, right under the topside dome atop the shuttlebay. There's your aft phaser turret, banks three and four, with a 120 degree spread.
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Old Yesterday, 03:13 AM   #9
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i like your thoughts on that. i will try and incorporate that in my ship.
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