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Old April 27 2013, 01:10 AM   #91
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I hope it's the end of that subplot, so they can focus on other things. The whole thing smacked of "we need to create tension in the relationship" and was one of my least favorite storylines leading up to the finale.

Last night's episode was pretty good. I've been re-watching season 2 recently and it's clear that even good episodes these past few seasons are way far behind in quality to even the average episodes from seasons 2 through early 4.
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Old April 27 2013, 12:44 PM   #92
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Well, the end of that episode (Paper Airplanes) just made me cry...
Yeah, I wasn't a fan of that storyline but that scene was emotional.
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Old April 27 2013, 02:36 PM   #93
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After I posted my comment, I realized how much I didn't like the Andy sub-plot. I had repressed it, completely. It really seems like they dusted off a discarded idea for Michael Scott's exit from the show, and applied it to Andy. Much of Andy's behavior reminded me more of Michael than Andy.
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Old April 27 2013, 02:43 PM   #94
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That's been a recurring problem with the Andy character, especially after Helms came back from the first "Hangover." Some arcs he's a villainous character, some arcs he's been a nice guy everyman, and some arcs he's Michael Scott II.
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Old April 27 2013, 02:54 PM   #95
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Don't forget the arcs where he's a complete moron. I liked the beginning of last season, when they office banded around him. Of course, his relationship with Erin and the choices he made that led to it and to it's ending really destroyed any sympathy I had for the character.
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Old April 27 2013, 04:04 PM   #96
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Yeah, I was thinking as I was watching it that it seemed exactly like something Michael would do.
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Old April 27 2013, 04:39 PM   #97
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The Jim and Pam scene at the end didn't really ring true to me. How nice that the problems in their marriage are neatly solved by suddenly having a flashback to their wedding vows...except not. It did not seem realistic. I actually appreciated the tension in their storyline this season because that did seem realistic to me, that a young married couple would actually be having such issues.

I don't really know how they could end the whole show with complete satisfaction. I guess the thing to hope for at this point for The Office finale is something heartfelt and genuine.
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Old April 27 2013, 04:51 PM   #98
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It did not seem realistic.
Because it's a sit-com.
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Old April 27 2013, 04:55 PM   #99
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It did not seem realistic.
Because it's a sit-com.
Well, yes, obviously. But it just tied up the story way too neatly, instead of being emotional it just made me roll my eyes.
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Old April 27 2013, 05:40 PM   #100
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Don't forget the arcs where he's a complete moron...
I generally lump those into the "Michael Scott II" arcs, insofar as the writers sometimes made Michael too stupid as well.

But the whole "Andy is a moron" thing is especially grating because they keep playing up that he graduated from Cornell. Yes, I understand that he is supposed to be a legacy who got in through daddy's connections but Cornell is well known as a high pressure place once people do get in (some even consider it the suicide capitol of the Ivy League) they don't stay in if they can't hack it.

They could have written around this (and they seemed to a little back in the "villain Andy" days) by portraying him as book smart and common sense stupid but, again, they never seemed to get a handle on the character for more than part of season at a time.
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Old April 27 2013, 06:36 PM   #101
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I remembering visiting the Cornell Campus and being shown where the students jump off (I think it was a bridge, it was over 15 years ago I visited). It was an odd thing to see on a campus tour!

As for Jim and Pam, yes it is a cheesy way to end the story line, if it is indeed intended to be the end. But, here's the thing, I'd much rather have them resolve this in a cheesy fashion than to prolong it.
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Old April 27 2013, 06:44 PM   #102
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I remembering visiting the Cornell Campus and being shown where the students jump off (I think it was a bridge, it was over 15 years ago I visited). It was an odd thing to see on a campus tour!
It was probably the suspension bridge.

Ithaca, Cornell's home town, is very hilly and full of gorges. So all the bridges at this point have either fences or nets around them to prevent jumpers.

Heh. Here's a thought: Ithaca is only about two hours from Scranton. In the final episode, Andy could go back to Cornell and "gorge out" over losing Erin.
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Old April 27 2013, 07:29 PM   #103
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Yeah, that sounds right.

I think the thing about Andy is that I don't care what happens to him.
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Old April 28 2013, 02:23 AM   #104
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Andy jumping to his death in the finale and everyone just shrugging when they hear the news? I'm in! Office writers make it happen.
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Andy jumping to his death in the finale and everyone just shrugging when they hear the news? I'm in! Office writers make it happen.
It's already been in the can for about a month.
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