Who was the earliest graduate of Starfleet Academy?

Melakon · January 26 2013, 08:12 AM

Are there any clues?

And none of that "the class of 2165" stuff either.

This is the kind of answerable question I come up with after a nap.

King Daniel Into Darkness · January 26 2013, 10:24 AM

Patricia O'Malley graduated Starfleet Academy in 2149. There are no other mentions of the academy in Enterprise, just a few references to "flight school" from Archer.

What do I win?

Melakon · January 26 2013, 11:55 AM

My undying gratitude.

I intended to type "unanswerable question", but I'd just woke up.

King Daniel Into Darkness · January 26 2013, 11:58 AM

Hooray.

Melakon · January 26 2013, 12:06 PM

I would offer you my firstborn male child, but I'd need a girlfriend first.

King Daniel Into Darkness · January 26 2013, 12:08 PM

That I can't help you with.

Ronald Held · January 26 2013, 10:09 PM

Did you mean the Terran or Federation Starfleet academy?

Melakon · January 26 2013, 10:37 PM

I was going by Memory Alpha's article for Starfleet Academy, which says it was founded in 2161.

C.E. Evans · January 26 2013, 11:09 PM

Melakon wrote:

I was going by Memory Alpha's article for Starfleet Academy, which says it was founded in 2161.

For the Federation Starfleet, but the initially humans-only Earth Starfleet had an officer corps too.

The Wormhole · January 27 2013, 02:13 AM

Pre-Federation Starfleet had no Academy, just a training program called STC. The Academy diploma seen Storm Front has been confirmed to be a mistake.

Ronald Held · January 27 2013, 08:40 PM

The Wormhole wrote:

Pre-Federation Starfleet had no Academy, just a training program called STC. The Academy diploma seen Storm Front has been confirmed to be a mistake.

What is the reference for this?

T'Girl · January 27 2013, 08:57 PM

Ronald Held wrote:

The Wormhole wrote:

Pre-Federation Starfleet had no Academy, just a training program called STC. The Academy diploma seen Storm Front has been confirmed to be a mistake.

What is the reference for this?

Once it's on screen, it's canon.

C.E. Evans · January 27 2013, 09:05 PM

Ronald Held wrote:

The Wormhole wrote:

Pre-Federation Starfleet had no Academy, just a training program called STC. The Academy diploma seen Storm Front has been confirmed to be a mistake.

What is the reference for this?

It really hasn't been confirmed to be a mistake, just an opinion that it is. While Archer made a reference to "Starfleet Training," and Tucker to always being in trouble at something called "S.T.C.," it really doesn't rule out that the Earth Starfleet had its own pre-Federation Academy as indicated in "Storm Front."

The Wormhole · January 27 2013, 11:10 PM

Ronald Held wrote:

The Wormhole wrote:

Pre-Federation Starfleet had no Academy, just a training program called STC. The Academy diploma seen Storm Front has been confirmed to be a mistake.

What is the reference for this?

I remember someone from behind the scenes admitting as much shortly after the episode aired.

Melakon · January 27 2013, 11:46 PM

The Wormhole wrote:

Ronald Held wrote:

The Wormhole wrote:

Pre-Federation Starfleet had no Academy, just a training program called STC. The Academy diploma seen Storm Front has been confirmed to be a mistake.

What is the reference for this?

I remember someone from behind the scenes admitting as much shortly after the episode aired.

It's odd that Memory Alpha makes no mention of an institution referred to as "Starfleet Academy" prior to 2161 at all, even in the O'Malley article which has a picture clearly showing the diploma.

Maybe it's a side effect of the Temporal Cold War.

January 26 2013, 08:12 AM	#1
Melakon Commodore Location: Unmarked grave, Ekos	Who was the earliest graduate of Starfleet Academy? Are there any clues? And none of that "the class of 2165" stuff either. This is the kind of answerable question I come up with after a nap. __________________ "Every time you think, you weaken the nation." --Moe Howard

January 26 2013, 10:24 AM	#2
King Daniel Into Darkness Admiral Location: KingDaniel has fallen Into Darkness (in England)	Re: Who was the earliest graduate of Starfleet Academy? Patricia O'Malley graduated Starfleet Academy in 2149. There are no other mentions of the academy in Enterprise, just a few references to "flight school" from Archer. What do I win? __________________ Star Trek Imponderables, fun video mashups of Trek's biggest continuity errors. Episode One Episode Two

January 26 2013, 11:55 AM	#3
Melakon Commodore Location: Unmarked grave, Ekos	Re: Who was the earliest graduate of Starfleet Academy? My undying gratitude. I intended to type "unanswerable question", but I'd just woke up. __________________ "Every time you think, you weaken the nation." --Moe Howard

January 26 2013, 11:58 AM	#4
King Daniel Into Darkness Admiral Location: KingDaniel has fallen Into Darkness (in England)	Re: Who was the earliest graduate of Starfleet Academy? Hooray. __________________ Star Trek Imponderables, fun video mashups of Trek's biggest continuity errors. Episode One Episode Two

January 26 2013, 12:06 PM	#5
Melakon Commodore Location: Unmarked grave, Ekos	Re: Who was the earliest graduate of Starfleet Academy? I would offer you my firstborn male child, but I'd need a girlfriend first. __________________ "Every time you think, you weaken the nation." --Moe Howard

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January 26 2013, 12:08 PM	#6
King Daniel Into Darkness Admiral Location: KingDaniel has fallen Into Darkness (in England)	Re: Who was the earliest graduate of Starfleet Academy? That I can't help you with. __________________ Star Trek Imponderables, fun video mashups of Trek's biggest continuity errors. Episode One Episode Two

January 26 2013, 10:09 PM	#7
Ronald Held Rear Admiral Location: On the USS Sovereign	Re: Who was the earliest graduate of Starfleet Academy? Did you mean the Terran or Federation Starfleet academy?

January 26 2013, 10:37 PM	#8
Melakon Commodore Location: Unmarked grave, Ekos	Re: Who was the earliest graduate of Starfleet Academy? I was going by Memory Alpha's article for Starfleet Academy, which says it was founded in 2161. __________________ "Every time you think, you weaken the nation." --Moe Howard

January 27 2013, 02:13 AM	#10
The Wormhole Admiral	Re: Who was the earliest graduate of Starfleet Academy? Pre-Federation Starfleet had no Academy, just a training program called STC. The Academy diploma seen Storm Front has been confirmed to be a mistake. __________________ "Internet message boards aren't as funny today as they were ten years ago. I've stopped reading new posts." -The Simpsons 20th anniversary special.