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Old January 25 2013, 09:24 PM   #256
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Yeah, it's one thing if you just don't like Abrams' work. In that case, as a Star Wars fan, I might be bummed out that he is taking control of my beloved franchise. However, treating this like some kind of betrayal to Trek fans is just absurd and nonsensical.
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Old January 25 2013, 09:24 PM   #257
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You know what Abrams thinks and feels? Woah!
I do know what Abrams has publicly stated, which is our most direct evidence. Indeed, I quoted him it. Here it is, again:

“I frankly feel that – I almost feel that, in a weird way, the opportunity for whomever it is to direct that movie, it comes with the burden of being that kind of iconic movie and series. I was never a big ‘Star Trek’ fan growing up, so for me, working on ‘Star Trek’ didn’t have any of that, you know, almost fatal sacrilege"
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Did anyone else yawn like 5 times when reading that?
This adds nothing to the conversation.

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Your sad high school issues aside,
It's called a metaphor. Pour yourself a glass of punch. I'll explain it to you while JJ dances "Gangam Style" with that hot chick from a galaxy far far away.

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this is win/win for me - a decent and talented director is taking over a great franchise that I enjoy after lending a much needed hand to another great franchise that I enjoy (and will probably continue to do so in some capacity).

Everything's coming up Garak.
Sure, he'll help out "in some capacity." Maybe he'll get a bros to give you a sympathy dance.

This may be good for Star Wars (Abrams is right that this is daunting task) and this may be good for Sci-Fi in general, but you're drinking the spiked stuff if you think this is direct benefit for the next Trek film in the franchise. Spin it all you want, he's got a new main squeeze.
I think that the "high-school dance" metaphor has at this point been worked way past time to say "Good-night." What say you make an effort to focus on the topic rather than on such wrong-footed attempts at baiting other posters?
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Old January 25 2013, 09:33 PM   #258
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Here's my main hope for Abrams's Star Wars: he dumps John Williams as the composer (using the SW theme and opening, of course; Disney will mandate that) and films the thing in a faster paced and more modern style.

Maybe he can even make the characters interesting as people; he's done that with Star Trek.

Of course he'll have to live with 3D and working in digital; Disney will insist on that as well.
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Old January 25 2013, 09:35 PM   #259
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My only hope is that he gives me characters I can give a shit about. That has been sorely lacking from the SW franchise for a good long while.
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Old January 25 2013, 09:37 PM   #260
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Agreed.

If Star Wars fans are as indignant a year from now as old-line trekkies have been since 2007 we'll know that Abrams is doing a good job.
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Old January 25 2013, 09:44 PM   #261
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This is the way I see this whole Abrams brouhaha:

The tomboyish Star Trek has always considered working class J.J. Abrams her best friend. But when J.J. asks out the most popular girl in school, Star Wars, Star Trek realizes she feels something much deeper for him. Meanwhile, George Lucas, Star Wars Landspeeder-driving ex-boyfriend from the rich section of town, plans to cause trouble for J.J.; although he has no real feelings for Star Wars, he feels humiliated at losing her to a social inferior. However, J.J. cunningly manages things to his own and Star Wars's advantage and gives Lucas his well-deserved comeuppance. In the end, Star Wars realizes that she needs time alone and J.J. clues into Star Trek's feelings for him. Realizing that he loves her too, he gives her the diamond earrings he had originally bought as a present for Star Wars...

... or something...
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Old January 25 2013, 09:45 PM   #262
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I really think that Star Trek should have ended up with Ducky anyway.

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Old January 25 2013, 09:47 PM   #263
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Star Trek is a free spirit and will never settle down.
Star Wars is just happy to be out of that old abusive relationship.
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Old January 25 2013, 09:50 PM   #264
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George Lucas ends up with Howard the Ducky.
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Old January 25 2013, 09:52 PM   #265
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Actually, Star Trek is more like the woman who finally ended a soul-deadening marriage of decades standing and was just thrilled to be bedding someone who made her feel alive again.

It really upset her kids/fans, but then they were always all about their own needs. J.J. may not have been Mr. Right, but then that wasn't what she was looking for - "Mister Right Now" would do for the moment. One thing she knows is she's well and truly done with Chubby Hubby and coddling kiddies who are long overdue to be making their own ways in the world.
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Old January 25 2013, 09:59 PM   #266
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This adds nothing to the conversation.
Then don't make yawn inducing posts. It's not like I'm sleepy.

It's called a metaphor.
Elsewhere that would probably be called a metaphor.

Pour yourself a glass of punch. I'll explain it to you while JJ dances "Gangam Style" with that hot chick from a galaxy far far away.
I hope he pony trots his way to the promised land.

Sure, he'll help out "in some capacity." Maybe he'll get a bros to give you a sympathy dance.

This may be good for Star Wars (Abrams is right that this is daunting task) and this may be good for Sci-Fi in general, but you're drinking the spiked stuff if you think this is direct benefit for the next Trek film in the franchise. Spin it all you want, he's got a new main squeeze.
There's no spin here. I'm genuinely happy for him but more importantly I'm happy for myself. New Trek and new Star Wars? That's awesome. There has already been such a great foundation laid here for nuTrek, so much so that I'm confident with him in even a limited producer-type role it won't stray off the path. Paramount won't want to screw it up too much either, the first movie was a blockbuster and I'm pretty sure the second will be as well.
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Old January 25 2013, 10:00 PM   #267
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This all goes back to the notion on the part of trufans that we're supposed to be engaged in some kind of personal, emotional relationship with the people working on these movies - they talk about disloyalty, and being jilted, and all kinds of adolescent nonsense. Then they express the peculiar notion that the rest of us must be interested in those fantasies as well.

Abrams does Star Trek. Abrams does Star Wars. If you like what he does, it's all good.

I suppose if you don't, you can make up incompetent similes or coin terrible memes like the "Lucas raped my childhood" thing in order to reinforce your personal feelings of victimization - but really, who the fuck does that kind of thing?

Pretending that the Star Trek franchise has suffered a terrible blow because the guy who's in charge of it goes from success to success, and that those of us who are enjoying these movies should feel bad, is simply sour grapes.

One more time, for anyone who's slow: it doesn't work for you to try to paint Abrams's success as some kind of failure for anyone involved; it simply demonstrates the desperate bitterness of some of those who don't like what he's doing with Star Trek - and what he and the people who work for him will continue to be doing with it for some time to come.
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Old January 25 2013, 10:19 PM   #268
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Here's my main hope for Abrams's Star Wars: he dumps John Williams as the composer (using the SW theme and opening, of course; Disney will mandate that) and films the thing in a faster paced and more modern style.
I think it's a safe bet Michael Giacchino will do the music, although I can't imagine Williams not being asked or turned down. Williams will probably just step aside. It's a new regime. Giacchino would probably keep the main and end title music and then do his own thing, while keeping it "Star Warsy." Abrams will also most likely bring a brand new look to the franchise since he doesn't have Lucas's "everyone on vitural sets" stiffness. Whether one likes his visual style or not, it DOES have energy. He may keep it closer to the original trilogy style than Star Trek, but he'll bring his own pacing and energy to the project. There may be a feeling that since it's "episode 7" they want to keep the look close to what had come before, but who knows?

I see nothing but good things for Star Wars, honestly.
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Old January 25 2013, 10:27 PM   #269
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Agreed. This is pretty exciting all around.
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Old January 25 2013, 10:29 PM   #270
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Here's my main hope for Abrams's Star Wars: he dumps John Williams as the composer (using the SW theme and opening, of course; Disney will mandate that) and films the thing in a faster paced and more modern style.
I think it's a safe bet Michael Giacchino will do the music, although I can't imagine Williams not being asked or turned down. Williams will probably just step aside. It's a new regime. Giacchino would probably keep the main and end title music and then do his own thing, while keeping it "Star Warsy." Abrams will also most likely bring a brand new look to the franchise since he doesn't have Lucas's "everyone on vitural sets" stiffness. Whether one likes his visual style or not, it DOES have energy. He may keep it closer to the original trilogy style than Star Trek, but he'll bring his own pacing and energy to the project. There may be a feeling that since it's "episode 7" they want to keep the look close to what had come before, but who knows?

I see nothing but good things for Star Wars, honestly.
We'll see. I never thought Williams music was a problem.

The large orchestral is an important part of the Star Wars soundscape. I would not hope to hear synthesizers or a drum machines in a Star Wars film.
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