What did/does the Borg say to the kazon whenever they cross paths? - Page 2

Melakon · January 23 2013, 09:58 AM

And I guess the camouflage abilities of his ship may have caught their interest.

And he knew 4000 languages.

Though they only knew English, even when we saw them assimilating alien races.

Guy Gardener · January 23 2013, 10:11 AM

That's an interesting question?

Is there a Borg Language or do all the drones know all the languages of all the assimilated species ipso facto all drones speak whatever language which they are most comfortable with...

Which means that they no need of Universal translators.

They would only have universal translators as a pleasantry to the nearly assimilated, if at all.

Most nearly assimilated species would of course have their own universal translators but this still raises some curious points.

Melakon · January 23 2013, 10:29 AM

And many of those races, like our own, could have over 100 languages, dialects, and subtongues.

trekkiebaggio · January 23 2013, 12:52 PM

"We'd rather assimilate the Pakleds than you."

Mr. Laser Beam · January 23 2013, 10:34 PM

"You are the Kazon. Just go rolling along."

Timewalker · January 24 2013, 02:24 AM

Guy Gardener wrote:

Usually they say... "We are the Borg. We will assimilate your biological and technological distinctiveness. Your culture will adapt to serve us. Resistance is futile."

"We are the Borg. Your biological and technological distinctiveness is disgusting. Get lost."

Dream wrote:

"How the HELL did you manage to take over Voyager while we keep getting our asses kicked?"

The Borg didn't have Seska (I could see her trying to take over the position of Borg Queen...).

Melakon wrote:

What always surprised me is the Borg going after single passenger crafts, like that guy in Hope and Fear.

If the ship has interesting technology, who cares how many people are on it?

teacake · January 24 2013, 02:26 AM

And maybe sometimes the are just bored. Or wanting to get in some practice for the freshly hatched drones.

Melakon · January 24 2013, 02:34 AM

Borg training exercises. That explains all those crashed ships that were found.

Timewalker · January 24 2013, 03:13 AM

BORED COLLECTIVE: We are the Bored. Fun and excitement are irrelevant. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile...

A Voyager fanfic parody I've been reading.

Guy Gardener · January 24 2013, 03:19 AM

You do remember that Arturis was a one man terrorist front?

Benig the last of his people his sole ambition in life was to destroy the Borg?

Subliminally, liminally and superliminally.

Goodness knows how many drones he'd been responsible for the sanctioning of?

ENEMY OF THE BORG.

Everyone else gets a benefit of the doubt period of grace where they're ignored, during which the Borg think that they're salesmen at a timeshare retreat and they're advertising to potential customers the benefits of assimilation.

Look but don't touch is the only rule the Borg have during one of their presentations.

BirdInJetstream · January 24 2013, 09:54 PM

I guess, Kazon scull structure makes neuronal implants impossible. Maybe they use only the bodies and transplant someone's head on it...

How did you know, they were never assimilated?

That they are nothing that contributes to the "evolution" of the Borg might indeed be reasonable to explain "nonassimilation".

Timelord_Victorious · January 24 2013, 10:03 PM

"We are the Borg. Your biological and tech..., oh it's you, never mind."

R. Star · January 24 2013, 10:11 PM

"We are the Borg. You will not be assimilated. The last time we assimilated a dumb species we ended up with the Borg Queen and we've pretty much been fucked since."

JirinPanthosa · January 25 2013, 01:29 AM

"We are the Borg. We were going to assimilate you, but then we realized you suck. Your biological and technological distinctiveness would only make us lame. But if you don't mind, do you know any superior species that might be worth assimilating? Thanks."

Deks · January 25 2013, 12:10 PM

Dream wrote:

"How the HELL did you manage to take over Voyager while we keep getting our asses kicked?"

Seska - who happened to be a Cardassian spy agent and 4 heavily armed carriers.

Realistically, if Kazon technology was outdated compared to Voyager (and depending by how much) - speculation indicated by several decades... then Voyager shouldn't have been taken as it was and could have went up against all 8 carriers seeing how Federation tecnology would evolve at an exponential rate in short periods of time (especially when you take into account 150 different races working together).
Granted... with Seska joining the Kazon, she already had some kind of knowledge of relatively advanced Cardassian and SF technology which she shared with Culluh (as indicated in the episode Alliances).

To Kazon credit, they had 4 heavily armed carriers going up against Voyager, which held on its own very well before that idiot Kazon blew himself up and impaired the ship's main power - otherwise, it would have probably been a victory for SF crew.

The writers took the Borg in a wrong direction by introducing the Queen (a limitation factor subject to making mistakes).

Aside from that... if the Borg encounter the Kazon, its likely they detect them from a large distance and simply avoid them.

Remember, the Borg wouldn't attack unless they see the opposing ship as a threat... so in that regard... they are less than a microscopic nuisance that couldn't do anything even if they wanted to (even Voyager had a tough time doing any damage most of the time and barely getting out of situations in one piece - only that was a more advanced ship).

January 23 2013, 09:58 AM	#16
Melakon Commodore Location: Unmarked grave, Ekos	Re: What did/does the Borg say to the kazon whenever they cross paths? And I guess the camouflage abilities of his ship may have caught their interest. And he knew 4000 languages. Though they only knew English, even when we saw them assimilating alien races. __________________ "Every time you think, you weaken the nation." --Moe Howard

January 23 2013, 10:11 AM	#17
Guy Gardener Admiral Location: In the lap of squalor I assure you.	Re: What did/does the Borg say to the kazon whenever they cross paths? That's an interesting question? Is there a Borg Language or do all the drones know all the languages of all the assimilated species ipso facto all drones speak whatever language which they are most comfortable with... Which means that they no need of Universal translators. They would only have universal translators as a pleasantry to the nearly assimilated, if at all. Most nearly assimilated species would of course have their own universal translators but this still raises some curious points. __________________ "Glitter is the herpes of arts and craft." Troy Yingst. My Life as Liz

January 23 2013, 10:29 AM	#18
Melakon Commodore Location: Unmarked grave, Ekos	Re: What did/does the Borg say to the kazon whenever they cross paths? And many of those races, like our own, could have over 100 languages, dialects, and subtongues. __________________ "Every time you think, you weaken the nation." --Moe Howard

January 23 2013, 12:52 PM	#19
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January 23 2013, 10:34 PM	#20
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January 24 2013, 02:26 AM	#22
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: What did/does the Borg say to the kazon whenever they cross paths? And maybe sometimes the are just bored. Or wanting to get in some practice for the freshly hatched drones. __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne

January 24 2013, 02:34 AM	#23
Melakon Commodore Location: Unmarked grave, Ekos	Re: What did/does the Borg say to the kazon whenever they cross paths? Borg training exercises. That explains all those crashed ships that were found. __________________ "Every time you think, you weaken the nation." --Moe Howard

January 24 2013, 03:13 AM	#24
Timewalker Commodore Location: In many different universes, simultaneously.	Re: What did/does the Borg say to the kazon whenever they cross paths? BORED COLLECTIVE: We are the Bored. Fun and excitement are irrelevant. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile... A Voyager fanfic parody I've been reading. __________________ "Let's give it to Riker. He'll eat anything!"

January 24 2013, 03:19 AM	#25
Guy Gardener Admiral Location: In the lap of squalor I assure you.	Re: What did/does the Borg say to the kazon whenever they cross paths? You do remember that Arturis was a one man terrorist front? Benig the last of his people his sole ambition in life was to destroy the Borg? Subliminally, liminally and superliminally. Goodness knows how many drones he'd been responsible for the sanctioning of? ENEMY OF THE BORG. Everyone else gets a benefit of the doubt period of grace where they're ignored, during which the Borg think that they're salesmen at a timeshare retreat and they're advertising to potential customers the benefits of assimilation. Look but don't touch is the only rule the Borg have during one of their presentations. __________________ "Glitter is the herpes of arts and craft." Troy Yingst. My Life as Liz

January 24 2013, 09:54 PM	#26
BirdInJetstream Lieutenant Commander Location: Jetstream	Re: What did/does the Borg say to the kazon whenever they cross paths? I guess, Kazon scull structure makes neuronal implants impossible. Maybe they use only the bodies and transplant someone's head on it... How did you know, they were never assimilated? That they are nothing that contributes to the "evolution" of the Borg might indeed be reasonable to explain "nonassimilation". __________________ "Life improves the capacity of the environment to sustain life." - P. Kynes

January 24 2013, 10:03 PM	#27
Timelord_Victorious Rear Admiral	Re: What did/does the Borg say to the kazon whenever they cross paths? "We are the Borg. Your biological and tech..., oh it's you, never mind."

January 24 2013, 10:11 PM	#28
R. Star Commodore Location: Terra 3	Re: What did/does the Borg say to the kazon whenever they cross paths? "We are the Borg. You will not be assimilated. The last time we assimilated a dumb species we ended up with the Borg Queen and we've pretty much been fucked since." __________________ "I was never a Star Trek fan." J.J. Abrams

January 25 2013, 01:29 AM	#29
JirinPanthosa Captain	Re: What did/does the Borg say to the kazon whenever they cross paths? "We are the Borg. We were going to assimilate you, but then we realized you suck. Your biological and technological distinctiveness would only make us lame. But if you don't mind, do you know any superior species that might be worth assimilating? Thanks."