Officially no series 8 in 2013 - Page 10

Snick27 · January 26 2013, 07:16 AM

I have so many friends that like (some love) this show, but gave up watching it since its never on anymore.

They get busy watching other stuff or just gave up trying to figure out when its on. And even if its found to be on, they forgot what that season arc is or what the last episode they watched was about.

This show is making inroad in America so what do they do, split this season in half and show the last few starting in March and then no more till what Nov for 1 60 min episode and then wait till fall of 2014 to show maybe 5 episodes again.

Talk about killing your buzz and get forgotten.

Regarding the 50th.

Something like this you dont screw up. You have Baker, Davidson, Other Baker, McCoy, McGann nearing the end of their lives, and to piss this away for any reason just defeats the whole point of celibrating the 50th.

To just throw out a single 60 min episode and call that your 50th Anniversary is a slap in the face and showing no respect to this show.

Shows Big Finish cares more about this show than BBC does.

MNM · January 26 2013, 12:04 PM

Snick27 wrote:

Something like this you dont screw up. You have Baker, Davidson, Other Baker, McCoy, McGann nearing the end of their lives, and to piss this away for any reason just defeats the whole point of celibrating the 50th.

While I agree with quite a lot of what you have said, I dont think Paul McGann is "nearing the end of his life" be being only a couple of years past 50!

Starkers · January 26 2013, 01:53 PM

It was James Bond's 50th last year. We got a film...

Alidar Jarok · January 26 2013, 02:12 PM

Well, what else could you do with James Bond? Besides, we got a longer than usual film, fwiw.

Venardhi · January 26 2013, 02:14 PM

For a film franchise, that would be expected. It is a whole other animal.

Professor Zoom · January 26 2013, 03:36 PM

Alidar Jarok wrote:

Well, what else could you do with James Bond? Besides, we got a longer than usual film, fwiw.

Though, OT, a shitty film. A gorgeous looking but shitty film.

It's like that hot chick... who is awful human being. She's HOT, but she kicks dogs.

Anyway... carry on with the pile up.

Alidar Jarok · January 26 2013, 04:17 PM

Eh, it's a matter of opinion. The overall opinion has been positive (I would argue that it wasn't a great movie, but was certainly a good movie and a comparison between Rotten Tomatoes and MetaCritic would agree with me there).

Professor Zoom · January 26 2013, 04:23 PM

Alidar Jarok wrote:

Eh, it's a matter of opinion. The overall opinion has been positive (I would argue that it wasn't a great movie, but was certainly a good movie and a comparison between Rotten Tomatoes and MetaCritic would agree with me there).

Oh, I know. I know I'm in the minority on this one. I just have NO idea why people love it so much. Other than it LOOKS fantastic... visually, it's great.

That's why I go with the hot girl analogy... that's the only way I can understand why people seem to love Skyfall.

Alidar Jarok · January 26 2013, 04:59 PM

That's certainly not my reason. In fact, it gets quite dark and dingy about half of the way through when they go to Scotland, so beauty isn't really the answer. But we're quite a bit off topic, so I'll leave this conversation there.

Mr Awe · January 26 2013, 06:17 PM

Snick27 wrote:

Talk about killing your buzz and get forgotten.

To just throw out a single 60 min episode and call that your 50th Anniversary is a slap in the face and showing no respect to this show.

I agree with this. Though, I want to add that I don't think there are any "bad guys" in this story. I think the BBC cares and Moffat definitely cares.

It appears to be a combination of budgetary problems and mismanagement. They can at least fix the mismanagement and get a regular production going at whatever rate they can afford. Whether the BBC has the leadership to actually do this, I don't know!

Mr Awe

Snick27 · January 26 2013, 11:15 PM

Mr Awe wrote:

Snick27 wrote:

Talk about killing your buzz and get forgotten.

To just throw out a single 60 min episode and call that your 50th Anniversary is a slap in the face and showing no respect to this show.

I agree with this. Though, I want to add that I don't think there are any "bad guys" in this story. I think the BBC cares and Moffat definitely cares.

It appears to be a combination of budgetary problems and mismanagement. They can at least fix the mismanagement and get a regular production going at whatever rate they can afford. Whether the BBC has the leadership to actually do this, I don't know!

Mr Awe

They had years to plan for this and save up some money. So if this is something they really wanted to do, they could of made it happen.

Doctor Who feels like a Stepchild to the BBC.

Lance · January 26 2013, 11:28 PM

The trouble is obviously that Steven Moffat is incompetent. Russell "hooray for me!" Davies would have had fifty double-length episodes written and sent off in the same amount of time that it seems to take Moffat to write a single Christmas special.

Seriously, there have been rumblings about this for a while. Moffat has only managed to complete one full season in all the time he's been show-runner (Series Five, his first), and only then because he had the lead-in from Davies doing the Tennant specials. Ever since then Moffat has become notorious for missing his deadlines. The split of Series 6 into two halves was allegedly because he'd spread himself too thinly across both Doctor Who and Sherlock, but it seems like he just can't get it together now.

To be honest, I think they'd be better off simply admitting that Doctor Who only has six episodes each series from now on. None of this 'Series "x" Part "x"!' business.

MacLeod · January 27 2013, 12:07 AM

Venardhi wrote:

For a film franchise, that would be expected. It is a whole other animal.

Well it must have done something right.

1.>It's the most succesdul film ever at the British Box Office topping Avatar

2.>It was one of last years most succesful film.

As for DW, unless the Beeb is trying to keep things under wrap, a special and a docu-drama on the making of it seem a little light for such a milestone.

diankra · January 27 2013, 02:02 AM

What would be amusing if the incoming director general (who's starting in the spring, to replace the one who had to resign after 57 days back in October) got hit by a left-field question about Doctor Who's 50th anniversary when the Commons Select Committee on Culture and Media talk to him as he takes up the job.
Doubt they will though... though my MP is chair of that committee, so I do almost wonder if I ought to ask him to try. But compared with interrogating Murdoch about Hackgate, it'd seem a bit trivial.

Konata Izumi · January 27 2013, 02:17 AM

Lance wrote:

The split of Series 6 into two halves was allegedly because he'd spread himself too thinly across both Doctor Who and Sherlock, but it seems like he just can't get it together now.

That is said sometimes, but wasn't Series 6 shot on normal schedule, and only aired later? So TD,T,WDAN,KL,FYAIF,Lp would have been the first Moffat Who episode made later than usual (cause that one was even if it aired on time).

Lance wrote:

To be honest, I think they'd be better off simply admitting that Doctor Who only has six episodes each series from now on. None of this 'Series "x" Part "x"!' business.

I don't think as little as half will become the norm but maybe eight like this year.

Lance wrote:

The trouble is obviously that Steven Moffat is incompetent.

They just want to save some money by (sort of) inconspicuously shortening the seasons a bit.

January 26 2013, 07:16 AM	#136
Snick27 Captain Location: Pittsburgh Pa	Re: Officially no series 8 in 2013 I have so many friends that like (some love) this show, but gave up watching it since its never on anymore. They get busy watching other stuff or just gave up trying to figure out when its on. And even if its found to be on, they forgot what that season arc is or what the last episode they watched was about. This show is making inroad in America so what do they do, split this season in half and show the last few starting in March and then no more till what Nov for 1 60 min episode and then wait till fall of 2014 to show maybe 5 episodes again. Talk about killing your buzz and get forgotten. Regarding the 50th. Something like this you dont screw up. You have Baker, Davidson, Other Baker, McCoy, McGann nearing the end of their lives, and to piss this away for any reason just defeats the whole point of celibrating the 50th. To just throw out a single 60 min episode and call that your 50th Anniversary is a slap in the face and showing no respect to this show. Shows Big Finish cares more about this show than BBC does. __________________ Let's Go Pittsburgh Penguins!!

January 26 2013, 01:53 PM	#138
Starkers Admiral Location: Behind enemy lines...	Re: Officially no series 8 in 2013 It was James Bond's 50th last year. We got a film... __________________ Werewolves on the Moon Now with Star Trek Into Darkness review The Devils of Amber Street

January 26 2013, 02:12 PM	#139
Alidar Jarok Everything in moderation but moderation Location: Arlington, VA	Re: Officially no series 8 in 2013 Well, what else could you do with James Bond? Besides, we got a longer than usual film, fwiw. __________________ When on Romulus, Do as the Romulans

January 26 2013, 02:14 PM	#140
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January 26 2013, 04:17 PM	#142
Alidar Jarok Everything in moderation but moderation Location: Arlington, VA	Re: Officially no series 8 in 2013 Eh, it's a matter of opinion. The overall opinion has been positive (I would argue that it wasn't a great movie, but was certainly a good movie and a comparison between Rotten Tomatoes and MetaCritic would agree with me there). __________________ When on Romulus, Do as the Romulans

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January 26 2013, 04:59 PM	#144
Alidar Jarok Everything in moderation but moderation Location: Arlington, VA	Re: Officially no series 8 in 2013 That's certainly not my reason. In fact, it gets quite dark and dingy about half of the way through when they go to Scotland, so beauty isn't really the answer. But we're quite a bit off topic, so I'll leave this conversation there. __________________ When on Romulus, Do as the Romulans

January 26 2013, 11:28 PM	#147
Lance Captain Location: The Enterprise's Restroom	Re: Officially no series 8 in 2013 The trouble is obviously that Steven Moffat is incompetent. Russell "hooray for me!" Davies would have had fifty double-length episodes written and sent off in the same amount of time that it seems to take Moffat to write a single Christmas special. Seriously, there have been rumblings about this for a while. Moffat has only managed to complete one full season in all the time he's been show-runner (Series Five, his first), and only then because he had the lead-in from Davies doing the Tennant specials. Ever since then Moffat has become notorious for missing his deadlines. The split of Series 6 into two halves was allegedly because he'd spread himself too thinly across both Doctor Who and Sherlock, but it seems like he just can't get it together now. To be honest, I think they'd be better off simply admitting that Doctor Who only has six episodes each series from now on. None of this 'Series "x" Part "x"!' business.

January 27 2013, 02:02 AM	#149
diankra Commodore Location: UK	Re: Officially no series 8 in 2013 What would be amusing if the incoming director general (who's starting in the spring, to replace the one who had to resign after 57 days back in October) got hit by a left-field question about Doctor Who's 50th anniversary when the Commons Select Committee on Culture and Media talk to him as he takes up the job. Doubt they will though... though my MP is chair of that committee, so I do almost wonder if I ought to ask him to try. But compared with interrogating Murdoch about Hackgate, it'd seem a bit trivial. __________________ "Some days are better than others. They say that where I come from." "Loudly, I imagine, on the day you left." (Blake's 7 - Rumours of Death)