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Old January 22 2013, 07:11 AM   #16
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Re: Absolute worst character in DS9 History: Ezri Dax

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Hey, it could have been worse.

They could have made Lwaxana Troi a regular character.
That's almost worth a new topic: Who would have been the worst crossover character to replace Jadzia Dax?
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Old January 22 2013, 07:29 AM   #17
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Neelix.

And I like Neelix.
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Old January 22 2013, 07:45 AM   #18
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Re: Absolute worst character in DS9 History: Ezri Dax

The obvious answer here would be Wesley. But I'm going with Chakotay. He was more boring than watching your computer defrag.

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Old January 22 2013, 09:03 AM   #19
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Re: Absolute worst character in DS9 History: Ezri Dax

I really liked Ezri. A far more interesting character then Jadzia ever was. But the problem in that is, not even the writers knew how to handle Jadzia, and they admitted that in several interviews. She went from wise old sage, to resident science geek, to fierce warrior woman, because they couldn't get a clear grasp on her. And in the end, all she really was, was a something like a comic relief, but with sarcasm. Trying to be a smart-ass with witty comments nobody was waiting to her. Which sucked. Since she really did have potential.

Not to mention that half the time I didn't care for Farrell's acting.
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Old January 22 2013, 09:06 AM   #20
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Re: Absolute worst character in DS9 History: Ezri Dax

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The obvious answer here would be Wesley. But I'm going with Chakotay. He was more boring than watching your computer defrag.
Lol!

Chakotay was neutered whilst at least Ezri was allowed to breathe as a character and got a few memorable on screen moments.

The absolute worst character in DS9 history is Mullibok, that stubborn old Bajoran farmer who refused to leave his home. Ezri couldn't even come close to that level of infuriation and exasperation I felt for that Mullibok fellow. At the very least Ezri never had any serious controversial moments unlike other main characters: Sisko poisoning an inhabited planet's atmosphere, Bashir and Worf deciding to remove Kurn's memory WITHOUT consulting Kurn, Odo betraying everyone and briefly siding with the female changeling, O'Brien's one episode trauma of having to deal with being mentally imprisoned for twenty years, Odo professing his love to Kira (admittedly a changeling) one episode AFTER Vedek Bereil died.

No, at least Ezri never had moments like that...
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Old January 22 2013, 10:51 AM   #21
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I think she was better written than Jadzia....Or kill Jadzia off in season four and let Ezri develop at a normal rate.
I don't even know what to say. I'm speechless.
I know yeah, people having different opinions is shocking.

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And if you locked any writer in a room and asked him, he'd tell you the exact same thing.

There's a reason Jadzia was pushed to the side by season four and why so much of season seven and (as I pointed out in the other thread) the relaunch are devoted to Ezri.

Jadzia was, from a writer's perspective, a flawed character to begin with. Others have established why in the other thread much better than I could.
I actually liked Jadzia more than Ezri. It really annoyed me that Ezri got so much screen time after Jadzia was killed off in such a poor manner. I said that Ezri was a better written character already, and I just said how I would fix things to make things work a little smoother.
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Old January 22 2013, 11:14 AM   #22
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I liked Ezri more than Jadzia, too, though I agree that she was kind of rushed. I understand that was kind of the nature of the situation, but in retrospect if they'd known Terry Farrell was leaving the show when they were writing Season Six, I wish they'd just killed her at one of the other two near-death experiences she had in "Rocks and Shoals" or "Change of Heart" so that Ezri would have had a little more time to get introduced without taking up as much of the final season as she did.

It would have been more daring if they'd replaced Jadzia with a male Trill, though I get why they didn't do that. Nana Visitor would have been the only female regular if that had happened.
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Old January 22 2013, 11:23 AM   #23
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Luther Sloan was the absolute worst. The whole concept of a rogue outfit was quite a good one but they ruined it by having a clown front it.
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Old January 22 2013, 11:24 AM   #24
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Re: Absolute worst character in DS9 History: Ezri Dax

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The obvious answer here would be Wesley. But I'm going with Chakotay. He was more boring than watching your computer defrag.
But moving a character from one series to another changes the whole dynamic and can lead to some very interesting things. Worf was rejuvenated by DS9, the same thing could have happened to Chakotay.

I love Ezri, btw.
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Old January 22 2013, 11:36 AM   #25
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I'd love to see the DS9 version of Chakotay actually. Or even the whole cast.
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Old January 22 2013, 11:38 AM   #26
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I liked Ezri, mainly because she seemed down to earth and not over top or anything. Being cute didn't hurt either.

I also liked that little speech she gave to Worf on the truth about Klingons.

The one thing I thought was lame was that like Dax, she was a dark haired female, around the same age, with a blue uniform, who just happened to be a Trill on the same ship that they were carrying the Dax symbiont on.

What an amazing coincidence. It's like Jadzia never really went anywhere!!
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Old January 22 2013, 12:30 PM   #27
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I dunno, Chakotay on DS9 might've been interesting if he behaved like he did in Caretaker before Janeway castrated him.
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Old January 22 2013, 12:32 PM   #28
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I liked Ezri.

She only had one season for character development as opposed to 7 like the others, that's the real problem.
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Old January 22 2013, 12:48 PM   #29
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It would have been interesting to see Ezri deal with the Klingon guff Jadzia was always spouting. Let some old Klingon rivals come a' calling. It might have also been intriguing to see Kira host the Dax symbiont for a few days, and deal with deeper held opinions about each other (secret resentments, etc), and other secrets from their past.

Physically I thought Ezri was an interesting choice - she would have to deal with perhaps less male attention than Jadzia was accustomed to as a "Babe," where Ezri was "cute." Not to mention no longer being able to reach the top shelf.

I liked Ezri, but she was written so off-kilter she should have hooked up with Barclay.

The romance with Bashir was too easy. Come on, he really preferred the symbiont to the packaging? Really?? Was he that out of touch with his own biology?

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I'm not a fan of Ezri either. Like ZeNd said, they devoted way too many episodes to her, when the final season really should have been used to tie up all the plot lines. As a result, the finale felt a little too rushed, and the viewers (or at least, this one) felt like the writers were cramming Ezri down their throats. Plus I just couldn't get past her cuteness and her annoying little-girl voice. It made it hard for me to take her seriously. Although I did enjoy when Garak tore her apart in "Afterimage". What can I say? I'm a little evil.

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Old January 22 2013, 12:49 PM   #30
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Re: Absolute worst character in DS9 History: Ezri Dax

I'm in the Ezri > Jadzia camp as well. I thought Farrel was a sub-par performer that was assigned a poorly thought out character with no direction. That's usually a recipe for disaster.
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