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Old February 25 2013, 04:00 PM   #121
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I've checked the credits online and there's no composer credit for this serial. Which is odd, since it has some rather distinctive music. It has kind of a Dudley Simpson sound to it, but I'm not sure. ...Wait a minute, on second thought, I think it's tracked music from "The Moonbase." But that doesn't have a composer credit either.
The music was stock tracks, principally a piece called called Space Adventure by M Slavin (also used as you mention in The Moonbase, and also The Tenth Planet and The Web of Fear). All the various stock tracks from Tomb were put out on CD about 15 years back, though I'd doubt it's still available.
V-Sat Astra 3967 was the release number just in case it is.
Other tracks included Astronautics Theme by E Sendel, Palpitations by J Scott, Desert Storm by H Freischner and Space Time Music by Wilfred Josephs (who also did some of the music for The Prisoner).
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Old February 25 2013, 04:16 PM   #122
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^Okay, thanks.
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Old February 25 2013, 08:31 PM   #123
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I'm really wondering how they're going to fill out an entire half hour special on the Eighth Doctor. Sure they could get into the audios, but that's not exactly visual.
I do think the half-hour special could include a look at how Who endured in both print & audio during his time. But I think most of it will be commentary on the movie itself (both in front & behind the camera) as well as how fans received the Doctor as suddenly a romantic figure, IMO.
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Old February 25 2013, 09:29 PM   #124
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Maybe a new Doc 8 episode?
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Old February 26 2013, 01:05 AM   #125
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On the Toberman thing... the initial idea, which doesn't really come across onscreen, was that he was deaf, and that Kaftan had paid for him to get cybernetic ears, so he was both grateful to her for helping him, but also working off a debt for the cost of that (so, effectively, a slave. Which is also a racist, but in a different way to the strong but dim stereotype we get onscreen). That makes better sense of why the Cybermen upgrade him than the onscreen reference to him being 'powerful' - he already had some implants, so they added more (and perhaps controlled him through the existing ones).
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Old February 26 2013, 03:25 AM   #126
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The Doctor really played with fire here. He manipulated events and allowed Kleig to get to where he could awaken the Cybermen, despite all his insistence that that shouldn't be allowed to happen... just because he wanted to see what Klieg's plan was? I think he let his curiosity get the best of him there.

Oh, and brilliant suggestion, Doctor -- lock up the crazy power-mad logicians in the room full of prototype weapons! How could that possibly go wrong? Is it me, or is the Doctor basically just making everything worse?

But the Doctor choosing to re-electrify the doors seems uncharacteristically vicious for him. Killing Cybermen is one thing, but he set it up to kill any hapless archaeologists who might come across the tomb again -- and he does get Toberman killed as a result. Again, practically everything bad here is the Doctor's fault. Why not just have the expedition use more of the blasting equipment they used at the beginning and re-bury the tomb?
This definitely seems to me to be one of those episodes where the Doctor's curiosity and impish tendencies get him [and others] into a great deal of trouble... the sheepish look on Troughton's face as he admits that he just wanted to see what Klieg would do was priceless...

...my question is what the holy hell was up with George Roubicek, the guy playing Captain Hopper [who was pretty much the actual saves-the-day hero in most of the episode]? His delivery was so bizarre that it just dropped me out of nearly every scene he spoke in, thinking "wtf is up with him??" It sounded like he was halfway between parodying what a strong-willed spaceship captain might sound like and a really bad John Wayne impression. Amusing to see from wiki that he was a dialogue coach [!] and appeared in Star Wars.
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Old February 26 2013, 04:45 AM   #127
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^Welcome to the wonderful world of fake American accents in Doctor Who. Roubicek was nowhere near as bad as Paul Grist in "The Claws of Axos" a few years later.
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Old February 26 2013, 05:06 AM   #128
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Boy, watching "The Aztecs" and then "Tomb of the Cybermen" is quite the change. Tomb looked positively cinematic in comparison! And I'd forgotten how great Patrick Troughton is. It's a real shame they don't have more surviving stories of him. I found the docu really interesting that he basically set the mold for every Doctor that came after him, particularly Matt Smith.
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Old February 27 2013, 05:21 AM   #129
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The Cybermen are easier to take seriously when they don't draw cute little graphic logos on all their stuff.
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Old February 27 2013, 05:22 AM   #130
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No, those are sinister stencils!!!
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Old February 27 2013, 01:30 PM   #131
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I thought that was a Cyberman political cartoon O_o
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Old March 9 2013, 07:24 PM   #132
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Do we know what Pertwee serial airs and when yet?
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Old March 9 2013, 07:25 PM   #133
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Whatever it is, I pray they don't use that awful widescreen distortion thing they used on "Tomb of the Cybermen."
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Old March 9 2013, 08:16 PM   #134
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The portrayal of Toberman is quite an unfortunate racial stereotype, a product of the period. Yet nonetheless he's allowed to be somewhat heroic toward the end, which redeems it somewhat.
They didn't even bury the man. I liked how he spooked Jamie though.

I tend to think that the Baker Episode will be The Talons of Weng-Chiang

As much as we all loved Elisabeth Sladen (who played Sarah-Jane), Leela is perhaps what many remember about the fourth doctor. Talons is rather like The Prisoner episode Hammer into Anvil--you are looking for a stock episode to showcase as much of the characters as you can encapsulate into one show.

As for Pertwee, I'd like The Dæmons.
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^^We've been assuming that six-parters are too long for their timeslot and commercial density, which would take Talons out of the running...
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