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View Poll Results: Rate Allegiance in Exile.
Outstanding 13 27.08%
Above Average 19 39.58%
Average 13 27.08%
Below Average 2 4.17%
Poor 1 2.08%
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Old January 31 2013, 03:44 AM   #76
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Re: TOS: Allegiance in Exile by DRGIII Review Thread (Spoilers!)

My copy just showed up. This is my first 5YM book in years. I have high hopes
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Old January 31 2013, 06:37 AM   #77
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Mine came yesterday. Even though I would have bought the book anyway, the spoiler ups my excitment level and moves this book to the top of my "to read" pile.
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Old January 31 2013, 10:11 PM   #78
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I ordred this book I hope it will arrive in the mail in a few weeks.I can't wait to read this Tos novel.
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Old January 31 2013, 10:26 PM   #79
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About halfway through this one, lovining it. The emotion of Kirk realizing how much of his mission has passed bye & the weight of the lives lost during that time was a nice touch.
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Old January 31 2013, 10:45 PM   #80
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My copy arrived today. I was, however, inside the vault at HSBC archives, so I wasn't able to start it. What was I doing inside a secure vault, you ask?

You don't have clearance to pursue that line of inquiry!
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Old January 31 2013, 10:47 PM   #81
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I read through this one in a single day, it was pretty fast-moving and short. A very well-written novel, but the plot just didn't resonate for me. In particular, while the identities of the colonists and the aggressors were kind of a neat twist when they were revealed, in the end... it just didn't matter as it didn't really add anything to either race. I did enjoy the focus on Sulu - I thought the author got into his head pretty well. Overall I find it above average, even if just slightly so. I'd rate it a 6 on a 10 point scale.
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Old February 1 2013, 01:29 AM   #82
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Re: TOS: Allegiance in Exile by DRGIII Review Thread (Spoilers!)

Does anyone know what year this story is set in?
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Old February 1 2013, 02:06 AM   #83
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Well, canon says that the 5 year mission ended in 2270, and I think the general trend in recent Lit has been to assume towards the end of 2270. So this must be towards the end of 2269.
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Old February 1 2013, 03:23 AM   #84
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Thank you that helps where to place it on my shelf
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Old February 2 2013, 06:58 AM   #85
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I'm actually kind of surprised that I'm the first member to vote this book as average. It's not that it's necessarily a "bad" story but it's just not what I would call a "memorable" story. Even though it covered the span of the last year mission it read more like an episode of TOS. The voicing was off on some of the main characters (especially Kirk) and at times they also felt out of character. The book seemed more like a pulp read or a 1990s trek book and not of the quality of the last ten years or so. It especially did not feel like a DRGIII novel at all and I say that as one who loves his other books. This was too cookie cutter and lacked the originality of his other books. Several scenes in the book were like...yea, yea, yea...been there done that before (especially the battle scenes).

No offense David, but you have written far better things and this book seemed like you were just collecting a paycheck. I know you have had several works on your plate and I hope that this was just a momentary lapse and your upcoming books will renew my faith in your writing skills. Not every episode or book for that matter is a "classic"!

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Old February 2 2013, 08:44 PM   #86
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Just started reading it. So far nothing stands out either way.
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Old February 3 2013, 08:27 AM   #87
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No offense David, but you have written far better things and this book seemed like you were just collecting a paycheck.
You know, I haven't read Allegiance in Exile yet -- I may not, as the premise just doesn't intrigue me -- but I have to chime in and say that criticisms like this always bug me.

I'm not a writer, but I've worked in the arts. I've been onstage, and I've been backstage. And the fact of the matter is, any time you work to produce a piece of art (whether it's a performance, or a poem, or a musical composition, or whatever), you're going to have your hits and your misses. No one can bat a thousand; everyone strikes out sometimes.

That doesn't mean that you're "just collecting a paycheck." It's quite possible to work very hard to do the best possible job you can at creating something, only to see it just fall flat for any number of reasons. God knows I've been onstage often enough on nights where I was concentrating, trying to get in the zone, trying to make everything work, and only to see my performance brought down by random errors; I know what it's like to try and just not quite nail it.

So if you didn't enjoy Allegiance, I certainly don't begrudge that. But taking that and turning it into an implication that the author just didn't care about writing the best possible story just bothers me, because of that experience I've had.
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Old February 3 2013, 04:41 PM   #88
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^ This times a million. I've performed in bands, onstage in theatrical productions, and professionally I'm a middle school teacher, and in every one of these things no matter how well prepared you are, and how hard you're trying, some things just go wrong.

Which doesn't say anything about this book, which I haven't read yet, I'm just saying. Not to mention that the amount of monetary reward for writing Trek novels, in general, isn't nearly enough to realistically accuse authors of this kind of cynicism.
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Old February 3 2013, 06:38 PM   #89
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I'm about a fourth of the way through it and it really hasn't hooked me so far. Not a "can't put it down" read so far, from my perspective.
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Old February 3 2013, 10:26 PM   #90
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I am about half way through. For some reason this reminds me of "A choice of catastrophes"
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