COUNTDOWN TO DARKNESS 5-page preview - Page 20

ChristopherPike · February 24 2013, 01:54 AM

Lord Garth, FOI wrote:

Remember in one of the leaked there is a ship with a very. Connie looking nacelle going into some space hanger

Lord Garth, FOI wrote:

Here
http://trekmovie.com/2013/02/03/shot...wl-commercial/
Thanks to the afore mentioned Anthony

King Daniel wrote:

A bit of the way down the page - the police or fighter or whatever craft it is seen attacking the Starfleet conference in the second trailer - it looks like what explodes in London in the Superbowl commercial might be a hangar full of them.

EDIT: Missed the bit about a Connie nacelle. I don't see that in there.

Glad it's not just me. I don't see anything like that, besides the ship possibly hitting the bay.

I'm find it impossible to tell with that ship. It's obviously badly damaged. There could be a secondary hull underneath, given the angle it comes in at. That could be an old-style nacelle cap, buzzard collector, whatever, on the left. All I know is, there's some insistence put about, that it isn't the Enterprise. What exactly is that based on?

Kruezerman · February 24 2013, 04:25 PM

I seriously have no idea what to expect anymore.

There's just so much new information coming in that is just so left field.

Christopher · February 24 2013, 04:38 PM

Well, what's wrong with not knowing what to expect? The best way to find out the contents of a story is to watch or read the story itself. The movie will be out in only a few months, and then we'll know.

JarodRussell · February 24 2013, 05:41 PM

Christopher wrote:

Well, what's wrong with not knowing what to expect? The best way to find out the contents of a story is to watch or read the story itself. The movie will be out in only a few months, and then we'll know.

Madness!

Kruezerman · February 24 2013, 05:55 PM

Christopher wrote:

Well, what's wrong with not knowing what to expect? The best way to find out the contents of a story is to watch or read the story itself. The movie will be out in only a few months, and then we'll know.

Now I'm not saying it's a bad thing at all, merely that I just don't know what to expect anymore.

ChristopherPike · February 24 2013, 09:45 PM

Spoilers are dilemma. So long as those who know are tightlipped, in theory it's all a fun game of deductive reasoning based on what pieces of the puzzle are purposefully put out there.

Right now, is the time and place to decide whether or not anyone needs to stay away... if they want to remain 100% free from knowing too much. I mean, a month from now they'll be press screenings and journalists who won't be able to contain themselves. Even if they think an article is free from spoilerific detail, a hardcore Star Trek fan will spot something for sure.

Therin of Andor · February 25 2013, 10:58 AM

JarodRussell wrote:

Madness!

Darkness!

Mirror Sulu · February 25 2013, 06:51 PM

Lord Garth, FOI wrote:

Cause they are full of Sh7t

They're full of Shat?
I knew Shatner would be the villain!

Seriously though, Cumberbatch isn't playing Khan.

Saul · February 25 2013, 07:05 PM

Mirror Sulu wrote:

Lord Garth, FOI wrote:

Cause they are full of Sh7t

They're full of Shat?
I knew Shatner would be the villain!

Seriously though, Cumberbatch isn't playing Khan.

Seriously though, how do you know that?

Christopher · February 25 2013, 07:20 PM

Saul wrote:

Mirror Sulu wrote:

Seriously though, Cumberbatch isn't playing Khan.

Seriously though, how do you know that?

Umm, because we know his character is named John Harrison, and because two members of the film's cast have explicitly said he's not playing Khan. And we've never had anything but rumor, speculation, and wishful thinking to suggest that he was Khan, and it is never wise to trust rumors.

Saul · February 25 2013, 07:27 PM

Christopher wrote:

Saul wrote:

Mirror Sulu wrote:

Seriously though, Cumberbatch isn't playing Khan.

Seriously though, how do you know that?

Umm, because we know his character is named John Harrison, and because two members of the film's cast have explicitly said he's not playing Khan. And we've never had anything but rumor, speculation, and wishful thinking to suggest that he was Khan, and it is never wise to trust rumors.

Cast members have stated it was Gary Mitchell too so anything they say is fact and is in no way playing with people's expectations then is it???

Christopher · February 25 2013, 08:57 PM

^Burden of proof. We have several pieces of evidence pointing to not-Khan. We had only one statement from a cast member suggesting Gary Mitchell, with no corroboration. We have zero evidence pointing to Khan, because rumors are not evidence. Given a choice between multiple conflicting hypotheses, the one that has several corroborating pieces of evidence (including the actual name of the character in official press releases, for gods' sake) is obviously preferable over one that has only a single unsubstantiated claim or one that has nothing but rumor to support it.

Franklin · February 25 2013, 09:22 PM

Christopher wrote:

^Burden of proof. We have several pieces of evidence pointing to not-Khan. We had only one statement from a cast member suggesting Gary Mitchell, with no corroboration. We have zero evidence pointing to Khan, because rumors are not evidence. Given a choice between multiple conflicting hypotheses, the one that has several corroborating pieces of evidence (including the actual name of the character in official press releases, for gods' sake) is obviously preferable over one that has only a single unsubstantiated claim or one that has nothing but rumor to support it.

Rumors of Khan aside, I keep coming back to those Starfleet sideburns Cumberbatch has. OK, you can put a uniform on Khan, it was done in "Space Seed", but the sideburns? How are those explained? He was given a uniform and a haircut? They're more regulation TOS Starfleet than Pine's are, for crying out loud.

Further, I agree, denials have to be believed until real evidence points the other way. It's all rumor, and those are fun, but they don't count.

BillJ · February 25 2013, 09:24 PM

Franklin wrote:

Rumors of Khan aside, I keep coming back to those Starfleet sideburns Cumberbatch has. OK, you can put a uniform on Khan, it was done in "Space Seed", but the sideburns? How are those explained? He was given a uniform and a haircut? They're more regulation TOS Starfleet than Pine's are, for crying out loud.

Further, denials have to be believed until real evidence points the other way. There just isn't any.

I believe he's connected to Khan somehow...

Franklin · February 25 2013, 09:34 PM

BillJ wrote:

Franklin wrote:

Rumors of Khan aside, I keep coming back to those Starfleet sideburns Cumberbatch has. OK, you can put a uniform on Khan, it was done in "Space Seed", but the sideburns? How are those explained? He was given a uniform and a haircut? They're more regulation TOS Starfleet than Pine's are, for crying out loud.

Further, denials have to be believed until real evidence points the other way. There just isn't any.

I believe he's connected to Khan somehow...

I believe that, too, as I've posted several times. But I don't think he's from the Botany Bay.

February 24 2013, 04:25 PM	#287
Kruezerman Commander Location: South Texas	Re: COUNTDOWN TO DARKNESS 5-page preview I seriously have no idea what to expect anymore. There's just so much new information coming in that is just so left field. __________________ Of course I don't want to eat something called a spittle pod. Go away. -Montgomery Scott-

February 24 2013, 04:38 PM	#288
Christopher Writer	Re: COUNTDOWN TO DARKNESS 5-page preview Well, what's wrong with not knowing what to expect? The best way to find out the contents of a story is to watch or read the story itself. The movie will be out in only a few months, and then we'll know. __________________ Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Includes purchasing links for Only Superhuman, on sale now! Updated 12/30/12 with annotations for the novel. Written Worlds -- My blog

February 24 2013, 09:45 PM	#291
ChristopherPike Rear Admiral	Re: COUNTDOWN TO DARKNESS 5-page preview Spoilers are dilemma. So long as those who know are tightlipped, in theory it's all a fun game of deductive reasoning based on what pieces of the puzzle are purposefully put out there. Right now, is the time and place to decide whether or not anyone needs to stay away... if they want to remain 100% free from knowing too much. I mean, a month from now they'll be press screenings and journalists who won't be able to contain themselves. Even if they think an article is free from spoilerific detail, a hardcore Star Trek fan will spot something for sure. __________________ STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE Tribute ►http://youtu.be/myS87yTTDes

February 25 2013, 08:57 PM	#297
Christopher Writer	Re: COUNTDOWN TO DARKNESS 5-page preview ^Burden of proof. We have several pieces of evidence pointing to not-Khan. We had only one statement from a cast member suggesting Gary Mitchell, with no corroboration. We have zero evidence pointing to Khan, because rumors are not evidence. Given a choice between multiple conflicting hypotheses, the one that has several corroborating pieces of evidence (including the actual name of the character in official press releases, for gods' sake) is obviously preferable over one that has only a single unsubstantiated claim or one that has nothing but rumor to support it. __________________ Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Includes purchasing links for Only Superhuman, on sale now! Updated 12/30/12 with annotations for the novel. Written Worlds -- My blog

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