RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 140,893
Posts: 5,476,785
Members: 25,050
Currently online: 449
Newest member: aloraptor

TrekToday headlines

Klingon Bloodwine To Debut
By: T'Bonz on Nov 25

Trek Actors In War Of The Worlds Fundraiser
By: T'Bonz on Nov 25

Star Trek: The Next Generation Gag Reel Tease
By: T'Bonz on Nov 24

Shatner In Haven
By: T'Bonz on Nov 24

Retro Review: Covenant
By: Michelle on Nov 22

Two Official Starships Collection Previews
By: T'Bonz on Nov 21

Saldana: Women Issues In Hollywood
By: T'Bonz on Nov 21

Shatner Book Kickstarter
By: T'Bonz on Nov 20

Trek Original Series Slippers
By: T'Bonz on Nov 19

Hemsworth Is Sexiest Man Alive
By: T'Bonz on Nov 19


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Misc. Star Trek > Trek Literature

Trek Literature "...Good words. That's where ideas begin."

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old March 9 2012, 02:09 AM   #1
David Mack
Writer
 
David Mack's Avatar
 
Location: New York, NY
View David Mack's Twitter Profile
Star Trek Vanguard: The Finale Thread (SPOILERS)

Hi, folks!

With the Star Trek Vanguard saga's finale coming any day now, I thought it might be good to have a thread for discussion of the series as a whole, and in which all of you could ask questions relating to the content I'll be posting to my website over the next few weeks here:


From my recent blog post introducing the page:

To kick off the beginning of the end for the saga I helped nurture into existence seven years ago, I’m sharing a little bit of behind-the-scenes content from the series’ development:
  • An early design schematic that shows a much larger footprint for the station;
  • Masao Okazaki‘s exterior and interior designs for the U.S.S. Sagittarius;
  • My internal memos about the plucky scout ship’s crew and capabilities;
  • and links to past interviews, blog posts, and podcasts about the saga.
Another fun treat: a special desktop wallpaper image composed of the eight original cover art images from the series, rendered by Doug Drexler.

Need more? When fellow Vanguard author Dayton Ward moved his website a while back, his annotations for the series’ second book, Summon the Thunder, got lost in the shuffle. Now those annotations make their triumphant return via my website (with his permission, of course). Also, I’d never gotten around to annotating the third book, Reap the Whirlwind … until now. That’s right, Vanguard fans — brand-new annotations for the series’ pivotal volume.

In the weeks to come, I plan to add more content to the page, including Vanguard‘s original series bible, the post-Harbinger addendum to the series bible, and new audio interviews and podcasts with myself, Dayton Ward, Kevin Dilmore, and Marco Palmieri.
Also, just a reminder, you have until next Tuesday, March 13, at 11:59PM EDT to submit your questions — here, on either of my blogs, my Facebook author page or personal page, or as a reply to my Twitter feed — for the Vanguard Farewell Podcast.

From all eligible entries I'll choose two winners to receive complete autographed sets of the Vanguard saga — that's all eight print-original books, signed by the authors.

So stick around, folks — the party’s just getting started!
__________________
~ David Mack | "Where were you when the page was blank?" — Truman Capote

Join me on Facebook & Twitter
David Mack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 9 2012, 02:18 AM   #2
Christopher
Writer
 
Christopher's Avatar
 
Re: Star Trek Vanguard: The Finale Thread (SPOILERS)

I like how the Sagittarius apparently has a couple of TRON lightcycles in its cargo bay...
__________________
Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Site update 11/16/14 including annotations for "The Caress of a Butterfly's Wing" and overview for DTI: The Collectors

Written Worlds -- My blog
Christopher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 9 2012, 04:37 AM   #3
CaptainDonovin
Fleet Captain
 
CaptainDonovin's Avatar
 
Location: Labrador City. woof
View CaptainDonovin's Twitter Profile
Re: Star Trek Vanguard: The Finale Thread (SPOILERS)

it took me a bit to get into this series but once I did I was hooked. Sad to see it end but All Good Things...

Thanks for a great series, though sad I'm excited to see how it finishes up.
__________________
Long live DS9!
CaptainDonovin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 9 2012, 05:33 AM   #4
JD
Admiral
 
JD's Avatar
 
Location: Arizona, USA
Re: Star Trek Vanguard: The Finale Thread (SPOILERS)

Vanguard quickly became a favorite of mine, so I'm sad to see it go. But at the same time I'm kinda happy that it's ending while the story is still going strong, and still short enough that I can reread the whole series in a fairly short amount of time. I'm definitely going to be rereading it, probably several more times over the next few years.
__________________
They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it is not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance. - Terry Pratchett, Equal Rites
JD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 9 2012, 12:48 PM   #5
CommodoreNero
Captain
 
CommodoreNero's Avatar
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
Re: Star Trek Vanguard: The Finale Thread (SPOILERS)

What really drew me to this series was how truly real, it felt. There's always been a bit of an antiseptic unreality attached to Star Trek and how it really never feels like it could grow out of our world. The Vanguard characters really seem like real people. How they speak, what they do, how they interact... It all seems perfectly realized.

And, I would love to see a movie version, if only to see Ms. Karume cast.
__________________
"My pappy always said 'two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights always make a left'" Cervantes Quinn, "Reap The Whirlwind"
CommodoreNero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 9 2012, 02:51 PM   #6
Yevetha
Commodore
 
Re: Star Trek Vanguard: The Finale Thread (SPOILERS)

Nice to see some more annotations. I love those.
Yevetha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 9 2012, 03:49 PM   #7
fleetcaptain
Fleet Captain
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA, USA
View fleetcaptain's Twitter Profile Send a message via AIM to fleetcaptain Send a message via Yahoo to fleetcaptain
Re: Star Trek Vanguard: The Finale Thread (SPOILERS)

Nice, going to take a look at it now myself. Glad you came up with this Mack.
fleetcaptain is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 9 2012, 05:14 PM   #8
flandry84
Captain
 
flandry84's Avatar
 
Location: Sunshine cottage,Lollipop lane,Latveria
Re: Star Trek Vanguard: The Finale Thread (SPOILERS)

Just to add to the sentiments expressed above.Vanguard has become absolutely my favourite iteration of the Star Trek universe,and I am very sad to see it go.
People are probably sick of me saying this but Vanguard is Star Trek as it would be done by HBO.
Hopefully the Vanguard project will lead to more mini-series and if not at least a grittier more realistic approach to Treklit.
__________________
Bah!
flandry84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 9 2012, 09:02 PM   #9
Patrick O'Brien
Captain
 
Patrick O'Brien's Avatar
 
Location: Brooklyn NY
Re: Star Trek Vanguard: The Finale Thread (SPOILERS)

Thanks for the links David We are all looking forward to the podcast. It's sad Vanguard is wraping up but i'm very excited to see how the series ends.
__________________
The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe.
-Dr. McCoy, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
Patrick O'Brien is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 9 2012, 09:11 PM   #10
Ronald Held
Rear Admiral
 
Location: On the USS Sovereign
Re: Star Trek Vanguard: The Finale Thread (SPOILERS)

Thanks for the pages and links, David. it is a shame that this series is ended, for it is one of the best in a long time.
Ronald Held is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 10 2012, 01:44 AM   #11
Relayer1
Commodore
 
Relayer1's Avatar
 
Location: The Black Country, England
Re: Star Trek Vanguard: The Finale Thread (SPOILERS)

Ronald Held wrote: View Post
Thanks for the pages and links, David. it is a shame that this series is ended, for it is one of the best in a long time.
Two words -

'Spin' and 'off'.

__________________
Soon oh soon the light, Pass within and soothe this endless night, And wait here for you, Our reason to be here...
Relayer1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 10 2012, 11:14 AM   #12
Sxottlan
Commodore
 
Sxottlan's Avatar
 
Location: Stealing Lu Bu's Horse
View Sxottlan's Twitter Profile
Re: Star Trek Vanguard: The Finale Thread (SPOILERS)

I'm realizing that I haven't commented at all about the fact that Vanguard is ending.

I've long advocated that the series not go on forever, but now that it's really ending it does feel surreal. To actually have a series finale in the books is so unique. But I'm glad for it, especially since New Frontier has become such a cautionary tale about the dangers of being never-ending.

Looking back, I remember reading the post on this board announcing the series. I can't believe 7 years have already gone by. That's about the normal running time of some Trek series, so the timing is apt. It's amazing how much the Treklit community has really latched onto this series. While I'm sure it's because of a great many reasons, I can't help but think one important reason is because a fan ended up helping create the look of the Vanguard universe. Now the Archer-class appears to have become a fan favorite (with another appearing in That Which Divides) and best of all, a Watchtower-class (or variant) space station has been retconned into on camera TOS. Incredible!
__________________
Out of 4 stars:
The Light Fantastic: **1/2
One Constant Star: **1/2
Serpents in the Garden: **1/2
Sxottlan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 11 2012, 06:11 AM   #13
Avro Arrow
Fleet Captain
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
Re: Star Trek Vanguard: The Finale Thread (SPOILERS)

David Mack, thanks for posting your Vanguard Finale page... cool stuff! It's like getting DVD bonus features for the books. I'll certainly be checking back to see the new additions.

Although it's sad to see such an excellent series come to an end, I'm really looking forward to Storming Heaven to see how it all goes down!
Avro Arrow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 11 2012, 11:06 AM   #14
Mage
Commodore
 
Mage's Avatar
 
Re: Star Trek Vanguard: The Finale Thread (SPOILERS)

In a way, I'm glad that Vanguard will end, meaning that it can actually have an ending. I love Vanguard, I've only started reading it in 2011, and I'm already re-reading it so I'm fully charged for the last novel. Vanguard changed TOS for me, showing there was far more to the 23rd century then just Kirk and co. Great writing, good drama, fantastic characters, witty humor, terror and angst, action, heroics, romance, even some courtroom drama and some glimpses into colonial life in Star Trek.

And what I feared the most, was that it was going to get dragged along, stretching it out over to many novels, putting to much in there. Ever since Open Secrets, there has been this unnerving feeling of things building up to something terrible and dangerous, building suspence. If that was dragged along to long, it would have become tidious. What direction will you go with the characters to keep them interesting? What sort of plots twists are you forced to put in there to keep the story going?

No, better to end it on a high, with an ending that will leave us both wanting for more but also satisfied. I, for one, can't wait to read this final installment, even though it means it will be the end of one of the finest moments in Star Trek, called Vanguard.
__________________
Niner. Lurker. Browncoat.
Mage is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 11 2012, 05:18 PM   #15
Relayer1
Commodore
 
Relayer1's Avatar
 
Location: The Black Country, England
Re: Star Trek Vanguard: The Finale Thread (SPOILERS)

Yes, it's right and proper that it has an ending - it is a finite story, not an open ended saga. However, it has served to open out the TOS era in a way approximating (on a smaller scale) the way that TNG, DS9, Destiny, The Typhon Pact etc. give a bigger picture of the TNG era and after.

I surmise that not everyone will die at the end of Vanguard (?). It would be good to see an ongoing companion series to the TOS novels. It need not always be the same cast, but could feature amongst others, the Vanguard survivors, the TOS crew and supporting characters, one or two Enterprise survivors (T'Pol and...), earlier versions of the movie era characters etc. etc.

I'd like to feel the TOS era was as richly developed as the later Trek universe has become...
__________________
Soon oh soon the light, Pass within and soothe this endless night, And wait here for you, Our reason to be here...

Last edited by Relayer1; March 11 2012 at 06:35 PM.
Relayer1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:07 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.