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Old June 15 2013, 05:34 PM   #46
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Re: Ghost in the Shell Arise: 2013

Well, I don't hate Kusanagi's voice. That's a start.

But I'm still mad that Atsuko Tanaka, Akio Ohtsuka, and Koichi Yamadera are not in this.
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Old June 25 2013, 08:53 PM   #47
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I've seen the first episode and let me tell you, it's on par with a dull episode of CSI. Nothing too spectacular in the animation and music departments. I'm honestly thinking of pulling apart the audio and replacing the music with stuff from my own collection, because the OST so far is audio Ambien. The GITS cast intros feel a bit forced, as do some of the visual/story references, and the characters are card stock thin. There are a few cool ideas here and there, but the execution isn't anything beyond competent. I'm hoping the next three episodes manage to make up for the weak first episode, but I'm not holding out that much hope. If we're lucky, this first episode won't have much relevance to the following three and we can all just recommend skipping this one.
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Old June 26 2013, 02:26 AM   #48
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Is there any way to see it online that doesn't involve illegality?

Or did you fly to Japan and see the theatrical release?
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Old June 26 2013, 03:12 AM   #49
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Is there any way to see it online that doesn't involve illegality?
Nope. You can wait for the Funimation sub only release or importing a Blu-Ray from Japan if you want to be totally legal. Personally, I recommend the former, because at least you wouldn't be supporting horrific business practices and attitudes towards non-Japanese consumers.
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Old June 26 2013, 02:45 PM   #50
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Edit: It's been to my eternal consternation that GITS came out the same year The Lion King was nominated for best picture, when GITS clearly blew it out of the water on every level including style and animation itself.
Do you mean Beauty and the Beast? If you're talking about the Oscars, The Lion King did not get nominated for best picture.
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Old June 26 2013, 04:21 PM   #51
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I'm not sure they would've been competing for the same Oscar category anyway, since GitS would've presumably fallen under foreign films.
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Old June 26 2013, 08:13 PM   #52
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This review claims that Arise does not seem to match up with prior continuity and thus appears to be in its own universe. ( A reboot rather than a true prequel - where have I seen that before? )

If that's true, we would now have 4 distinct GITS universes including the comics.
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Old June 27 2013, 01:57 AM   #53
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Yes so?

Gits SAC/2nd/SSS is more the personal universe of the director Kenji Kamiyama. Certain events in his other show (Eden of the East) cross into GITs for example.

This exercise by Production IG is probably a money extraction venture to separate your cash from your wallet so to fund their less profitable projects.
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Old June 27 2013, 02:44 AM   #54
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This exercise by Production IG is probably a money extraction venture to separate your cash from your wallet so to fund their less profitable projects.
That's closer to the truth than you know:
With the release of Ghost in the Shell: Arise, Production I.G founder Mitsuhisa Ishikawa has been discussing the history and future of the sci-fi series. Along with offering insight into its production history, Ishikawa notes that the studio would like to get creator Masamune Shirow's approval for making more GiTS. Ideally, it would becoming a continuing franchise, with a role along the lines of the one that the regularly revived Gundam serves at Sunrise.

Ishikawa estimates that 90% of Ghost in the Shell fans are international, with only 10% the series followers residing in Japan. This could be an opportunity to win over a larger audience.

The decision to base the new Arise series around the backstory of cyborg heroine Major Motoko Kusanagi was driven by the hopes of making Ghost in the Shell more accessible. This has been a trend with Production I.G's Ghost in the Shell anime, starting with the 1995 anime movie, which Ishikawa feels is far easier to understand than the original manga.

Ishikawa's history with the series began in 1993, when movie director Mamoru Oshii brought the manga to him and suggested an anime during a company ski trip.

About three years ago Ishikawa met with Masamune Shirow at his Kansai home to spring the idea of Arise on the manga author face to face. Shirow said he needed time to consider. The response came three weeks later, accompanied by a stack of concepts, plot ideas and designs. Ishikawa theorizes that Masamune Shirow was already prepared for a new Ghost in the Shell anime. He just wanted the extra time to polish his work.
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Old June 28 2013, 01:32 AM   #55
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I'm not sure they would've been competing for the same Oscar category anyway, since GitS would've presumably fallen under foreign films.
Foreign Language films can still compete with Hollywood-made English films in the "Best Picture" category. For example, the Italian Life is Beautiful was nominated for Best Picture.
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Old June 28 2013, 08:08 AM   #56
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Now I've seen another blog which claims Arise is a prequel to the movie-verse.

Which is kind of what I had thought at first given some of the character designs, especially Aramaki.

Was this said somewhere, that Arise would end up leading in to the first film?
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Old June 28 2013, 06:05 PM   #57
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Now I've seen another blog which claims Arise is a prequel to the movie-verse.

Which is kind of what I had thought at first given some of the character designs, especially Aramaki.

Was this said somewhere, that Arise would end up leading in to the first film?
No, but someone at the Arise reveal press conference mentioned that it was a prequel, plus the earlier date of the show leads people to think it's actually a prequel when it's a reboot.
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Old June 28 2013, 07:12 PM   #58
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But if it matches up with the movieverse continuity then it need not be a reboot.
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Old June 29 2013, 03:02 PM   #59
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It's not. The recasting suggests that it's a brand new continuity. It's only a prequel so that they could make Major younger to appeal more to the otaku. It's in no ways a prequel to any of the pre-existing content, the possibility of any continuity landmines is likely why (such as her conflicting origin in the GITS anime).
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Old June 29 2013, 04:17 PM   #60
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The first installment was actually quite a nice surprise.
Seems to be both, a different continuity that begins before the unit we know from the other ones was formed.
Pretty good writing and decent animation (though lightyears away from movie standards), but the crappy character design proved to be a real handicap.
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