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Old May 18 2013, 10:28 AM   #631
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Yeah. Tell her this crazy Janeway person ordered you at the butt end of a phaser to make her shop.

I guess you want to buy the food yourself and it gets awkward to have her pick it out and you pay for it rather than it just being in the house. So maybe if you tell her, "I need you to help me shop vegan!" and then pushily purchase it all it will be okay.
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Old May 18 2013, 05:16 PM   #632
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I have some really healthy pancake recipes if you interested. Vegetarians can eat white chocolate right?
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Old May 18 2013, 06:56 PM   #633
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Anyway, five month update:

Blood Pressure: 124/78
Blood Glucose: 108!!!!

I'm thrilled about the blood pressure reading, but this is the first time my blood glucose has been this low in at least 3 years.

VEGETARIANISM: IT WORKS!
Good job, J. Allen. Congratulations!

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"I need you to help me shop vegan!"
This.

Also maybe check out whether there's a vegan restaurant around that you could take her to once.
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Old May 19 2013, 01:00 AM   #634
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I have some really healthy pancake recipes if you interested. Vegetarians can eat white chocolate right?
Vegans don't eat chocolate made with milk products.
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Old May 19 2013, 01:45 AM   #635
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Can't they eat bacon if the pig had been in a coma?
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Old May 19 2013, 01:53 AM   #636
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I have some really healthy pancake recipes if you interested. Vegetarians can eat white chocolate right?
Vegetarians can eat all the chocolate they want, so long as it's not chocolate covered meat. Vegans can eat all the chocolate they want, so long as there are no animal products (milk, honey, etc) in it. I don't know if there's a vegan version of white chocolate.
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Old May 19 2013, 02:01 AM   #637
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Not only is there vegan white chocolate, there's even Kosher vegan white chocolate.

Amazon has a few varieties.
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Old May 19 2013, 02:05 AM   #638
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^Sweet! Literally!
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Old May 19 2013, 02:48 AM   #639
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I love smelly cheese.
Um, did I mention that with my ultra-sensitive nose I could never stomach that smelly cheese?!
Anyway, five month update:

Blood Pressure: 124/78
Blood Glucose: 108!!!!

I'm thrilled about the blood pressure reading, but this is the first time my blood glucose has been this low in at least 3 years.

VEGETARIANISM: IT WORKS!
Awesome job, my friend!
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Old May 19 2013, 03:18 AM   #640
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Yeah. Tell her this crazy Janeway person ordered you at the butt end of a phaser to make her shop.

I guess you want to buy the food yourself and it gets awkward to have her pick it out and you pay for it rather than it just being in the house. So maybe if you tell her, "I need you to help me shop vegan!" and then pushily purchase it all it will be okay.
We lived together when Voyager was originally airing, so she'd just take that as par for the course about the "crazy Janeway person" orders.

Definitely footing the bill though, I do want to be a gracious host but yeah... too much room to err. Oh and we already have two places we'll be going to as she loves them every time she comes into town. Shipley's Doughnuts(really) and Freebirds a kind of Tex-Mex place.
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Old May 19 2013, 03:24 AM   #641
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Kenbushway wrote: View Post
I have some really healthy pancake recipes if you interested. Vegetarians can eat white chocolate right?
Vegetarians can eat all the chocolate they want, so long as it's not chocolate covered meat. Vegans can eat all the chocolate they want, so long as there are no animal products (milk, honey, etc) in it. I don't know if there's a vegan version of white chocolate.
Honey...seriously.
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Old May 19 2013, 03:26 AM   #642
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Kenbushway wrote: View Post
I have some really healthy pancake recipes if you interested. Vegetarians can eat white chocolate right?
Vegetarians can eat all the chocolate they want, so long as it's not chocolate covered meat. Vegans can eat all the chocolate they want, so long as there are no animal products (milk, honey, etc) in it. I don't know if there's a vegan version of white chocolate.
Honey...seriously.
Bees make honey. I guess they think it is some form of slave labor...
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Old May 19 2013, 03:48 AM   #643
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Vegetarians can eat all the chocolate they want, so long as it's not chocolate covered meat. Vegans can eat all the chocolate they want, so long as there are no animal products (milk, honey, etc) in it. I don't know if there's a vegan version of white chocolate.
Honey...seriously.
Bees make honey. I guess they think it is some form of slave labor...
Don't be so judgemental, your own ethical boundaries are just as arbitrary as theirs -- you're just accustomed to them so they don't seem strange. For many vegans the philosophy is to live a life that is not reliant upon animal resources, at all. It's not just about animals being misused, it's about them not being used in any way. Among other things this means wearing no wool and eating no honey.

So you don't agree with that philosophy? That's fine, neither do I. But it's no more or less arbitrary than our own personal morals.
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Old May 19 2013, 03:57 AM   #644
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Worker bees, throw off your chains!

How can bees not be eating vegan? All they do is gather pollen and nectar, both plant products. Then they do some magic bee stuff and make honey out of it, which they eat. So if you sit down to share some honey with some bees, how can they be eating vegan and you're not? If they're getting the honey from the crops humans planted and tend, wouldn't that make bees dependent on farmers and mean that vegan bees can't eat nectar because it's a human product? Wouldn't this line of logic mean that vegans can't eat food produced by other vegans because an animal (a hominid) was involved in its production?
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Old May 19 2013, 03:58 AM   #645
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I'd say if you are so ethical about harming cute little cows and piggies and chickens, you should be as ethical about sweets, or is human slave labor just fine?

http://www.slavefreechocolate.org/
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