Character choice

Captain McBain · January 13 2013, 03:29 AM

Which Star Trek character do you like the least (and why)?

A) B4

B) Young Wesley

C) Harry Kim

D) Chakotay

E) Rom

Melakon · January 13 2013, 03:42 AM

F) Neelix

Why? The Annoyance Factor, which must be a specialty for Ethan Phillips. His character in the film The Island had some Neelix qualities too.

Greg Cox · January 13 2013, 04:09 AM

Nog doesn't belong on that list. He was a perfectly believable teenager, much more so than Wesley, who had a great character arc, from goofy kid hanging out on the Promenade to the first Ferengi in Starfleet and wounded war veteran . . .

Captain McBain · January 13 2013, 04:12 AM

Greg Cox wrote:

Nog doesn't belong on that list. He was a perfectly believable teenager, much more so than Wesley, who had a great character arc, from goofy kid hanging out on the Promenade to the first Ferengi in Starfleet and wounded war veteran . . .

(Plus, I always liked writing Jake and Nog.)

I meant Rom, the dorky adult Ferengi. Technically, though, I can include anyone, regardless of whether they're historically known as 'unlikeable characters.'

R. Star · January 13 2013, 04:17 AM

Melakon wrote:

F) Neelix

Why? The Annoyance Factor, which must be a specialty for Ethan Phillips. His character in the film The Island had some Neelix qualities too.

This.

As for your choices...

-B4 wasn't around enough to be terribly annoying and he wasn't even the worst thing in Nemesis anyways.
-Young Wesley... sure he was annoying, but I found it more annoying they let a kid run around on a starship... think the navy would let my 15 year old cousin play on a nuclear sub?
-Kim... he wasn't annoying, he was pathetic.
-Chakotay... he wasn't annoying, he was boring.
-Rom.... yeah he was annoying at times, but he had the best character arc out of anyone you named too.

Greg Cox · January 13 2013, 04:17 AM

Captain McBain wrote:

Greg Cox wrote:

Nog doesn't belong on that list. He was a perfectly believable teenager, much more so than Wesley, who had a great character arc, from goofy kid hanging out on the Promenade to the first Ferengi in Starfleet and wounded war veteran . . .

(Plus, I always liked writing Jake and Nog.)

I meant Rom, the dorky adult Ferengi. Technically, though, I can include anyone, regardless of whether they're historically known as 'unlikeable characters.'

You know, that makes sense. I was puzzled why you would include Nog . . . complete with a gag-face icon!

Melakon · January 13 2013, 04:25 AM

I didn't care that much for Spock when I first saw him in 1966. He was the fakiest looking alien I'd seen after viewing gruesome makeups by William Tuttle on Twilight Zone, and work by John Chambers, Wah Chang, and others on The Outer Limits. And of course, back in those days, I was a steady reader of Forrest J. Ackerman's Famous Monsters of Filmland magazine.

Captain McBain · January 13 2013, 04:42 AM

R. Star wrote:

Melakon wrote:

F) Neelix

Why? The Annoyance Factor, which must be a specialty for Ethan Phillips. His character in the film The Island had some Neelix qualities too.

This.

As for your choices...

-B4 wasn't around enough to be terribly annoying and he wasn't even the worst thing in Nemesis anyways.
-Young Wesley... sure he was annoying, but I found it more annoying they let a kid run around on a starship... think the navy would let my 15 year old cousin play on a nuclear sub?
-Kim... he wasn't annoying, he was pathetic.
-Chakotay... he wasn't annoying, he was boring.
-Rom.... yeah he was annoying at times, but he had the best character arc out of anyone you named too.

It's the character you like the least, not the one you find the most annoying.

Bry_Sinclair · January 13 2013, 09:10 PM

Captain McBain wrote:

Which Star Trek character do you like the least (and why)?

A) B4

B) Young Wesley

C) Harry Kim

D) Chakotay

E) Rom

If I were listing them in order of least to most liked then what you've got there seems right to me.

B4 - A needless plot element to carry Data on had there been a demand for more films, etc, but in reality just cheapened Data's death--probably the one thing I hated most about Nemesis.

Young Wesley - A kid who shows up the trained officers every week. Fortunately they did get rid of him.

Harry Kim - Goes nowhere, does nothing.

Chakotay - Under used and under developed.

Rom - After he moved away from wanting to kill Quark, he became a sweet character.

BillJ · January 13 2013, 10:37 PM

Major Kira. For a hardened freedom fighter, she was incredibly whiny.

Captain McBain · January 14 2013, 07:51 AM

I guess I'm in the minority, but I never had a problem with Chakotay.

Tosk · January 14 2013, 09:13 AM

Harry, forever and always. I'd have preferred it if they had an unmanned console on the bridge rather than him.

...And I love Rom.

Rhubarbodendron · January 14 2013, 09:27 AM

Captain McBain wrote:

I guess I'm in the minority, but I never had a problem with Chakotay.

another minority member reporting in

I thought him smart, loyal and handsome.

There's nobody on the list that I dislike. I do, however, strongly despise Kirk. Whenever Spock or Bones advised him not to do something, he would invariably do it nevertheless and consequently bring his ship, the crew and plenty of aliens - often even whole civilisations - in severe danger, getting countless nameless redshirts killed in the process and even extinguishing several species by killing their last members. His incompetence even got Spock killed once! How often he violated the prime directive is a question that propably not even Data could answer. A captain who was so ruthless to permanently ignore the regulations, damage the Federation's reputation and refuse to carry out orders ought to have been kicked out of Starfleet after the first 3 months!

Spock would by far have been the better (and more fascinating) captain.

And I am far from being the only one who thinks so: when I was a kid and TOS aired for the first time we'd play Enterprise every day. There was always a quarrel about who got to be Spock. Many of us wanted to be Bones or Scotty, but nobody ever volunteered to be Kirk. As we had to have the character in our games, we counted out who had to be Kirk and the unfortunate victim was much pitied.

Arpy · January 14 2013, 10:10 AM

If B4 were around longer, I'd say him. But as it stands? Rom. What a waste of screen time. Screw it: awesome make-up aside - and I don't mind Phillips - throw Neelix in there too. Jesus. More wasted screen time.

Gary7 · January 14 2013, 08:30 PM

While Wesley Crusher was there for the young boys and girls to identify with, I didn't like his "over the top" depiction of being such a whiz kid, supposedly leaps and bounds ahead of most adults on the ship. I would've liked seeing Wesley as a little bit more of a rebel, if not fully then just partly. Yes, he did "rebel" in the end, joining the Maquis... but it sure took a helluva long time to get there.

Anyway, if I had to leave Wesley alone then I'd say Chakotay. While I thought it was cool to bring an American Indian into the cast, and I really did like the Chakotay role, I found Beltran's portrayal to be rather flat. He's not a very talented actor. So, Chakotay was on the bottom of the list of characters I enjoyed. And... well, where he ended up afterward kind of speaks for itself.

January 13 2013, 03:29 AM	#1
Captain McBain Commander Location: Drinking lemonade with Q while deciding which species to torment next	Character choice Which Star Trek character do you like the least (and why)? A) B4 B) Young Wesley C) Harry Kim D) Chakotay E) Rom Last edited by Captain McBain; January 13 2013 at 04:11 AM.

January 13 2013, 03:42 AM	#2
Melakon Commodore Location: Unmarked grave, Ekos	Re: Character choice F) Neelix Why? The Annoyance Factor, which must be a specialty for Ethan Phillips. His character in the film The Island had some Neelix qualities too. __________________ "Every time you think, you weaken the nation." --Moe Howard

January 13 2013, 04:09 AM	#3
Greg Cox Vice Admiral Location: Oxford, PA	Re: Character choice Nog doesn't belong on that list. He was a perfectly believable teenager, much more so than Wesley, who had a great character arc, from goofy kid hanging out on the Promenade to the first Ferengi in Starfleet and wounded war veteran . . . __________________ www.gregcox-author.com

January 13 2013, 04:25 AM	#7
Melakon Commodore Location: Unmarked grave, Ekos	Re: Character choice I didn't care that much for Spock when I first saw him in 1966. He was the fakiest looking alien I'd seen after viewing gruesome makeups by William Tuttle on Twilight Zone, and work by John Chambers, Wah Chang, and others on The Outer Limits. And of course, back in those days, I was a steady reader of Forrest J. Ackerman's Famous Monsters of Filmland magazine. __________________ "Every time you think, you weaken the nation." --Moe Howard

January 13 2013, 10:37 PM	#10
BillJ Vice Admiral Location: In the 23rd Century...	Re: Character choice Major Kira. For a hardened freedom fighter, she was incredibly whiny. __________________ "You know. 1966? Seventy-nine episodes, about thirty good ones." - Phillip Fry describing Star Trek, Futurama

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January 14 2013, 07:51 AM	#11
Captain McBain Commander Location: Drinking lemonade with Q while deciding which species to torment next	Re: Character choice I guess I'm in the minority, but I never had a problem with Chakotay.

January 14 2013, 09:13 AM	#12
Tosk Rear Admiral Location: On the run.	Re: Character choice Harry, forever and always. I'd have preferred it if they had an unmanned console on the bridge rather than him. ...And I love Rom.

January 14 2013, 10:10 AM	#14
Arpy Rear Admiral	Re: Character choice If B4 were around longer, I'd say him. But as it stands? Rom. What a waste of screen time. Screw it: awesome make-up aside - and I don't mind Phillips - throw Neelix in there too. Jesus. More wasted screen time.

January 14 2013, 08:30 PM	#15
Gary7 Rear Admiral Location: Near Manhattan ··· in an alternate reality	Re: Character choice While Wesley Crusher was there for the young boys and girls to identify with, I didn't like his "over the top" depiction of being such a whiz kid, supposedly leaps and bounds ahead of most adults on the ship. I would've liked seeing Wesley as a little bit more of a rebel, if not fully then just partly. Yes, he did "rebel" in the end, joining the Maquis... but it sure took a helluva long time to get there. Anyway, if I had to leave Wesley alone then I'd say Chakotay. While I thought it was cool to bring an American Indian into the cast, and I really did like the Chakotay role, I found Beltran's portrayal to be rather flat. He's not a very talented actor. So, Chakotay was on the bottom of the list of characters I enjoyed. And... well, where he ended up afterward kind of speaks for itself. __________________ Remembering Ensign Mallory.