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Old January 14 2013, 09:48 AM   #61
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Re: Eating with your dominate hand

That statement by Wikipedia seems to have been backed up by other sources.

Several studies have come to the conclusion that Wikipedia is as reliable as other encyclopedias.
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Old January 14 2013, 12:52 PM   #62
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I'd be very interested, though, in learning what caused the American method. Is it only spite (doing it as different as possible from the way it's done in the homecountry) or is there a practical reason (having a hand free to grab the revolver lying in your lap)?
I'm sure Bill Bryson explained it in one of his books (Made In America, possibly), but I can't remember what it was...
Indeed. From what I remember, it's because an early eating implement had the fork and knife combined, with the useful bits at opposing ends of a single piece of wood.
I just looked through Made In America and you're right. Here's the passage:

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Only recently had Americans become generally acquainted with an appliance that had been around in Europe for some time: the fork. Before that, diners in the New World got by with knives (which often had two prongs on the end for spearing meat) and spoons. Because they were accustomed to using the right hand for both cutting food and raising it to the mouth, they developed the habit - curious to the rest of the world - of transferring the fork from left hand to right between actions.
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Old January 14 2013, 01:22 PM   #63
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I have a knife in my right hand and the fork in my left hand, and I use them together to eat. Using your knife, putting your knife down, picking up you fork, taking a bite and then repeating seems to be a very inefficient way to eat IMO.
I use the opposite hands but other than that I am in full agreement.
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Old January 14 2013, 01:25 PM   #64
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Wikipedia has an atricle about the history of the fork: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork
However, I wouldn't trust this source much as there is a rather big mistake already at the start of the article: on the European continent, unless we use the fork to poke something up, we hold it with the tines up and use it like a shovel, as opposed to the British way where you hold it with the tines down and pile food onto the back of the fork (or so a book on British etiquette states). I find the latter method highly ineffective, particularly with peas and similarly evasive food.

edited to add: the above is in reply to ITL (Davros overtook me - I'm a slow typer)
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Old January 14 2013, 10:18 PM   #65
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I slightly mash the peas before I put them on the back of the fork, or else I mix them with something (such as mash potato) that will stick easily to the back of the fork.

The only time I have the tines upright is when I am only using a fork not a knife (if I am eating savoury rice or pasta) In that case I hold the fork in my right hand and use it as a shovel.
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Old January 14 2013, 10:41 PM   #66
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I knew about the American method of zig-zaging fork and knife between hands. It's quite weird to me, but whatever.

But now you tell me that English-speaking people put food on the back of the fork???
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Old January 14 2013, 11:10 PM   #67
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I knew about the American method of zig-zaging fork and knife between hands. It's quite weird to me, but whatever.

But now you tell me that English-speaking people put food on the back of the fork???
Well...when cutting up food - meat, for example - in this manner, additional foody goodness - peas, for example - are sort of smooshed with the knife onto whatever's been speared by the fork.

Not that we eat like this all the time, though. Fork usage is context dependent. If I don't need a knife, I hold the fork in my dominant hand like anybody else.
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Old January 14 2013, 11:29 PM   #68
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There is a video at this site that shows a woman putting food onto the back of a fork though I which she had used other foods to show it more clearly.

edited to add - it also shown here



and ITL is correct - one has to have some food speared by the fork and other food is put on top of it.

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Old January 14 2013, 11:48 PM   #69
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If I'm eating peas, I usually scoop them up with the fork like it's a spoon. I don't spear them or smush them or anything like that.
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Old January 14 2013, 11:59 PM   #70
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The more you know.

In Italy (or at least, in my household), we cut and eat stuff Continental-style (no zig-zag), then you spear "spearable" food (e.g. steak) with the tines down, or you scoop "scoopable" food (e.g. vegetables) with the tines up.

Best of both worlds!
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Old January 15 2013, 12:11 AM   #71
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Dammit, now I have a craving for peas!
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Old January 15 2013, 05:14 AM   #72
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I don't eat peas either way!

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In Italy (or at least, in my household), we cut and eat stuff Continental-style (no zig-zag), then you spear "spearable" food (e.g. steak) with the tines down, or you scoop "scoopable" food (e.g. vegetables) with the tines up.

Best of both worlds!
Same here!
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Old January 15 2013, 08:32 AM   #73
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and here as well

The pea discussion reminds me of that silly old joke: what's the difference between roast beef and pea soup?
(Everyone can roast beef...)
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Old January 15 2013, 10:42 AM   #74
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The pea discussion reminds me of that silly old joke: what's the difference between roast beef and pea soup?
(Everyone can roast beef...)
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Old January 15 2013, 11:13 AM   #75
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The more you know.

In Italy (or at least, in my household), we cut and eat stuff Continental-style (no zig-zag), then you spear "spearable" food (e.g. steak) with the tines down, or you scoop "scoopable" food (e.g. vegetables) with the tines up.

Best of both worlds!
When I'm eating meat, I "spear" a piece of meat, and then scoop some of the side dishes, vegetable or whatever on my fork using my knife to eat everything together in one bite. Another benefit to using both hands.
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