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Old January 10 2013, 02:53 PM   #16
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Re: Are certain aliens too difficult to take seriously?

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What do you guys attribute that too?
Budget. It's much cheaper to apply Bajoran makeup to 10 extras than something more sophisticated like Cardassians or Andorians on 10 extras.
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Old January 10 2013, 04:17 PM   #17
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Re: Are certain aliens too difficult to take seriously?

I always thought the Kazon just looked like Jamaican Klingons...
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Old January 10 2013, 06:56 PM   #18
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Re: Are certain aliens too difficult to take seriously?

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I always thought the Kazon just looked like Jamaican Klingons...
+1 This. Their head protrusions could almost pass for a form of dreadlocks. I always thought they looked more like bonsai shrubberies, though. Hard to take someone seriously with plants sprouting from their heads.
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Old January 10 2013, 07:28 PM   #19
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I always wanted more Tellarites, maybe even more than Andorians. After seeing the improved makeup in TVH and ENT, really sad we never saw more Tellarites. No love for the fighting pig-men
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Old January 10 2013, 08:58 PM   #20
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Re: Are certain aliens too difficult to take seriously?

It does come down to budget and not content.

You have Klingons around often enough, so excessive violence isn't an issue.
You have the Cardassians around often enough, so oppressive tyranny and concentration camps isn't an issue.
You have the Ferengi around often enough, so the vices of avarice and using women as tools isn't an issue.
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Old January 10 2013, 09:06 PM   #21
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Re: Are certain aliens too difficult to take seriously?

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I always thought the Kazon just looked like Jamaican Klingons...
I always thought they were really unsubtle LA gangs. Sheesh...

That said, they were far from the worst of 'forehead of the week'. Though for me the creepiest and scariest alien still is that French guy in VOY S1. Yeeuch. And he had no make-up bar that stupid headpiece.
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Old January 13 2013, 06:27 AM   #22
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Re: Are certain aliens too difficult to take seriously?

I do agree that it probably comes down to budget issues most of the time. However, I'm in the middle of a TNG rewatch right now, and I couldn't help but point out this gem that showed up in an ep I recently saw (4x09 Final Mission):



That is one alien I'd have trouble taking seriously. It looks like she sneezed, her makeup dribbled down her face, and the wardrobe folks called it a day and sent her on set.
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Old January 13 2013, 07:42 AM   #23
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Old January 13 2013, 07:59 AM   #24
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Re: Are certain aliens too difficult to take seriously?

The one species I fins hard to take seriously on Trek are humans.

If/when we get a new Trek TV series, humans definately need to be in the minority. I always find it ridiculous that so many ships have human dominant crew, even though there aren't that many humans in the galaxy and only a small proportion of who would want to enter Starfleet. DS9 got it right with four main characters being human and four (later five) being alien, as well as most of the recurring characters.

Titan tried to remedy this with making a big thing about humans only making up 15% of the crew, I would think that would be the norm, with the Enterprise, E-D and Voyager being the exceptions. The Titan might get a prize for the most non-humanoid crewmembers aboard, but not over all aliens.
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Old January 13 2013, 08:54 AM   #25
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Re: Are certain aliens too difficult to take seriously?

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I do agree that it probably comes down to budget issues most of the time. However, I'm in the middle of a TNG rewatch right now, and I couldn't help but point out this gem that showed up in an ep I recently saw (4x09 Final Mission):



That is one alien I'd have trouble taking seriously. It looks like she sneezed, her makeup dribbled down her face, and the wardrobe folks called it a day and sent her on set.
I just wanna know how they eat with those things over their mouth.
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Old January 16 2013, 07:42 AM   #26
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I always thought the Kazon just looked like Jamaican Klingons...


good one.
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Old January 16 2013, 02:47 PM   #27
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You want silly? What about those stupid-looking Ferengi? (And they were regulars.) Frankly, I found the pig-faced Tellarites more believable.
Why does everyone pick on the kids... er... aliens with big ears?!
They're just earophobes.
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Old January 16 2013, 02:51 PM   #28
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Re: Are certain aliens too difficult to take seriously?

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I do agree that it probably comes down to budget issues most of the time. However, I'm in the middle of a TNG rewatch right now, and I couldn't help but point out this gem that showed up in an ep I recently saw (4x09 Final Mission):



That is one alien I'd have trouble taking seriously. It looks like she sneezed, her makeup dribbled down her face, and the wardrobe folks called it a day and sent her on set.
I just wanna know how they eat with those things over their mouth.
Remember the one on DS9 whose nose attached to his chin like he had a handle on his face? Blocked his mouth from the front, yet the script called for him to eat something at Quark's!
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Old January 16 2013, 03:11 PM   #29
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Re: Are certain aliens too difficult to take seriously?

These days I have trouble getting most of the standard latex-appliances alien species seriously. They look very silly to me. "I'm a Rognarian, we have latex spikes on our nostrils and we are always angry!"
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Old January 16 2013, 04:01 PM   #30
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Re: Are certain aliens too difficult to take seriously?

In terms of powers, I had trouble accepting the Suliban, tbh. Especially the flattening thing.
In terms of appearance, the weird guys in JJ Abrams' Star Wars bar scene and the caitians/ferasans: frankly, the much-maligned rubber-foreheads are just easier to take seriously than the "completely alien" aliens. Undine excepted, those kinda worked.
Oh, and the Letheans. How do they eat? HOW???

As for why so many Humans/Vulcans: make-up budget and practicality. They just can't afford to make every extra spend hours in make-up.
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