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Old January 9 2013, 08:31 AM   #91
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My local library has never heard of Ayn Rand.

'Atlas Shrugged' here is divided in three volumes

'La rivolta di Atlante - il tema'

'La rivolta di Atlante - L'uomo che apparteneva alla terra'

'La rivolta di Atlante - L'Atlantide'

You can order them on online bookstores (like Amazon.it), but none have them in stock. Last edition was published in 2007.

It's quite fun that a book so important and controversial for the American culture is virtually unknow outside U.S. borders...

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Old January 9 2013, 12:53 PM   #92
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Then you have some crappy bookstores and libraries in your area, stj. There was never any problem finding those works in stores and libraries around home.
This may be true. But then, I have to drive eighty miles to get to a decent bookstore. (Where, by local standards, Books-A-Million is a bastion of high culture.)
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Old January 9 2013, 01:30 PM   #93
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No, not sarcastic, this is really surprising.
See where it is.
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Old January 9 2013, 01:30 PM   #94
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Forget the film. But, you should read the book before it's banned.
Banned by who? Its been out for 55 years. Don't see it going away any time soon.
It could be banned, perhaps, by a government that absolutely DESPISES individual achievement and is completely convinced that nothing good can ever be accomplished without government's "help". Now, where oh where would we find such a government...
The Soviet Union?
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Old January 9 2013, 01:38 PM   #95
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Old January 9 2013, 01:52 PM   #96
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Forget the film. But, you should read the book before it's banned.
Banned by who? Its been out for 55 years. Don't see it going away any time soon.
It could be banned, perhaps, by a government that absolutely DESPISES individual achievement and is completely convinced that nothing good can ever be accomplished without government's "help". Now, where oh where would we find such a government...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...by_governments

Basically, the only books banned in the U.S. history are those with "obscene" material.

The Americans are more afraid of sex than politics.

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Old January 9 2013, 02:57 PM   #97
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Forget the film. But, you should read the book before it's banned.
Banned by who? Its been out for 55 years. Don't see it going away any time soon.
It could be banned, perhaps, by a government that absolutely DESPISES individual achievement and is completely convinced that nothing good can ever be accomplished without government's "help". Now, where oh where would we find such a government...
"Where oh where?...." Starting in about 5 minutes I can fine-tune my FM dial and hear scary tales about that horrific place, but I'll then need to change the station after about 5 more minutes because that is all I can stomach of Glenn Beck's rants and harebrained looniness.....
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Old January 9 2013, 03:04 PM   #98
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....I have never seen a public library (and over the years I've looked into public libraries in Morgantown, Charleston, Huntington [an interlibrary system serving a number of counties!]) Pikeville KY, which carried Marx or Mao....
I just confirmed online that works by those men are indeed in our local libraries, supporting what other posters have already said. If what you say is true, then this reflects poorly on your region of the country.
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Old January 9 2013, 03:09 PM   #99
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....The Americans are more afraid of sex than politics.
Many people do tend to fear what they do not understand!

.... I gotta go. Government drones are flying over the house again......
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Old January 9 2013, 04:04 PM   #100
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Banned by who? Its been out for 55 years. Don't see it going away any time soon.
It could be banned, perhaps, by a government that absolutely DESPISES individual achievement and is completely convinced that nothing good can ever be accomplished without government's "help". Now, where oh where would we find such a government...
Not here.
Nor anywhere in the world outside his head.

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My local library has never heard of Ayn Rand.

'Atlas Shrugged' here is divided in three volumes

'La rivolta di Atlante - il tema'

'La rivolta di Atlante - L'uomo che apparteneva alla terra'

'La rivolta di Atlante - L'Atlantide'

You can order them on online bookstores (like Amazon.it), but none have them in stock. Last edition was published in 2007.

It's quite fun that a book so important and controversial for the American culture is virtually unknow outside U.S. borders...
Yeah, Ayn Rand is almost completely unheard of in Italy. With good reason: when you have Bruno Vespa's, you don't need more plutocratic apologetic.

(Another Italian! Ciao Zaku! )
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Old January 9 2013, 04:24 PM   #101
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The Americans are more afraid of sex than politics.
And given that, today, the most popular books in America are the "Fifty Shades of Grey" trilogy, I'm not sure that's really the case anymore. Like I said before, it's rather amusing to see S/M erotica prominently displayed in our neighborhood Wal-Mart and grocery stories.

(P.S. stj: I sympathize with your plight. The only bookstore in our town is the Christian one. I have to drive forty-five minutes and across state lines to find a decent Barnes & Noble . . . .)
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Old January 9 2013, 05:07 PM   #102
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Yeah, Ayn Rand is almost completely unheard of in Italy. With good reason: when you have Bruno Vespa's, you don't need more plutocratic apologetic.

(Another Italian! Ciao Zaku! )
Ciao Iguana!

I think I did not hear even the most ardent Italian conservative talk about "full, pure, uncontrolled, unregulated laissez-faire capitalism" and egoism as paradigm of moral virtue (I'm reading Wikipedia now)...

It seems some 70's Italian leftist nightmare about capitalism...

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The Americans are more afraid of sex than politics.
And given that, today, the most popular books in America are the "Fifty Shades of Grey" trilogy, I'm not sure that's really the case anymore. Like I said before, it's rather amusing to see S/M erotica prominently displayed in our neighborhood Wal-Mart and grocery stories.
Obviously I was joking, but from the link it seems that the only reason to ban a book in a democracy is "sex"

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Old January 9 2013, 05:41 PM   #103
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And given that, today, the most popular books in America are the "Fifty Shades of Grey" trilogy, I'm not sure that's really the case anymore.
The success of Fifty Shades of Grey is in itself a symptom of a puritan society.
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Old January 9 2013, 06:43 PM   #104
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return of the repressed.
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Old January 9 2013, 10:11 PM   #105
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I think I did not hear even the most ardent Italian conservative talk about "full, pure, uncontrolled, unregulated laissez-faire capitalism" and egoism as paradigm of moral virtue (I'm reading Wikipedia now)...
Yeah, true that. Even the most "liberista" Italian politician pales in comparison to the sheer extremism of Randroids.

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It seems some 70's Italian leftist nightmare about capitalism...
Very keen observation. You'll believe it's a scare tactic by leftists to prove the evils of unfettered capitalism before thinking there are people who actually believe that stuff...
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