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Commodore
Location: Unmarked grave, Ekos
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"Enemy Within" - Scotty to blame?
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Commander
Location: Sunny Central Florida
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Re: "Enemy Within" - Scotty to blame?
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Location: Los Angeles
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Re: "Enemy Within" - Scotty to blame?
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Admiral
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Re: "Enemy Within" - Scotty to blame?
But yeah, while Scotty isn't the master of his own priorities any longer after the "good" Kirk starts messing with his work, he already makes some odd professional choices at the start of the adventure. Not double-checking for the captain? Not following his orders not to leave the transporter room unattended? Timo Saloniemi |
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Lieutenant Commander
Location: wallowing in a pool of emotion
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Re: "Enemy Within" - Scotty to blame?
It always amazed me that a ship the size of the Enterprise only seemed to have the one transporter room. But I don't recall any on-air references to other transporters on the ship, although they must have existed, for cargo loading/unloading and emergency evacuations if nothing else. In the episode "What are Little Girls Made Of?", Korby speaks of removing the android-making equipment from Exo III to the ship, but how would he ever have gotten it aboard? Certainly not with the transporter that we saw on the ship, and it couldn't have been loaded on a shuttlecraft either. There must at least have been cargo transporters. |
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Rear Admiral
Location: Glasgow
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Re: "Enemy Within" - Scotty to blame?
Also, while the "locally relative" positioning of the room never changed much (because after the pilot, it was a fixed part of the main corridor set), we got conflicting data on the deck where the transporter might be located. In "Dagger of the Mind", not only does the transporter room have a rare circuit board thing on the back wall, but it also delivers Dr van Gelder to somewhere near Deck 14. Possibly a secondary hull location, as the transporter was supposed to be moving only cargo, and the holds are somewhere down there. Indeed, this unique room may be one of the cargo transporters of the ship - possibly with bigger sisters somewhere nearby. Or then there are no bigger transporter, but there are bigger shuttlecraft (as seen in TAS)... Timo Saloniemi |
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Location: Unmarked grave, Ekos
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Re: "Enemy Within" - Scotty to blame?
I'm still impressed with that little dog extra though, he seemed pretty content wrapped up in that costume.
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Location: wallowing in a pool of emotion
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Lieutenant Commander
Location: wallowing in a pool of emotion
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Re: "Enemy Within" - Scotty to blame?
I think that "shuttlecraft" is also the word when describing them in plural - I believe there is a reference in "The Omega Glory" to the effect that "all four shuttlecraft" were still aboard the Exeter. Not sure about the turbolift, but I always figured the word "turbolift" was used in the singular to refer to the system as a whole, not individual cars. It's probably overall another case of over-analyzing a TV show that never really was intended or expected to come under the level of scrutiny that it's received over the years. All I'm saying is that the episodes of Star Trek TOS in general, and "The Enemy Within" in particular, do not support the idea of the Enterprise having multiple transporter units, although it doesn't make sense for there not to be. Of course, "The Enemy Within" doesn't support the idea of the Enterprise having shuttlecraft, either. |
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Location: New Yawk
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Re: "Enemy Within" - Scotty to blame?
"The shuttlecraft is inoperative." "So take another." and "The shuttlecraft are inoperative." "All of them?" Set changes are never something I use to "prove" we're seeing multiple rooms. Otherwise we'd have multiple engine rooms or sick bays. Obviously the walls were changed for production and script reasons. Trek was reasonably consistent, but watch Lost in Space or Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea to see rooms, walls and control panels changing weekly. It's not like there were multiple Jupiters 2. You have to draw the line somewhere between internal reality and "needs of the story." One transporter room in the original series. Otherwise, they could have beamed down both landing parties simultaneously in The Apple. "Meet me in THE transporter room." If there were more than one, someone would have asked "um, which one, Cap'n."
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Re: "Enemy Within" - Scotty to blame?
And the more rooms McCoy has, the merrier. Only three beds for convalescent patients? Doubling as diagnostics units for incoming patients? There are bound to be more rooms like this elsewhere, as the facility is supposed to handle casualties in addition to the routine ailments. Much as with the DS9 Promenade set, one would assume the existing arc of rooms to represent something like one-third of the overall Sickbay complex.
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It's not a question of only being able to beam six people at a time, that much we know: nine were beamed up simultaneously in "Day of the Dove". And the number of pads is unrelated to the number of items being transported, or their positioning, as witnessed every time cargo, or people unable to stand up straight, are being processed. (Although "Where No Man" does seem to indicate that the only way to survive being transported is to stand upright and keep your arms tucked in - even unconscious people are required to do so! This is contradicted in many episodes thereafter.)
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Even better, somewhat earlier on in the episode:
Timo Saloniemi Last edited by Timo; January 2 2013 at 09:58 PM. |
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