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Old January 10 2013, 06:02 AM   #1
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Why wasn't Naomi more socially maladjusted?

When I imagine how a child with a childhood like Naomi might turn out, I imagine somebody who's good at charming and manipulating adults, but has boundaries issues, a sense of entitlement, a need to be the center of attention, and difficulty relating to other children her age.

They could have done episodes that show this and still keep her likable without taking it to extremes. Were the writers being forced to just keep her this cute likable kid or did they just never consider the realistic consequences of growing up isolated from other children?
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Old January 10 2013, 07:00 AM   #2
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Re: Why wasn't Naomi more socially maladjusted?

I assume she spent a lot of time on the holodeck.
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Old January 10 2013, 10:03 AM   #3
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Re: Why wasn't Naomi more socially maladjusted?

I would have liked to see her play with the Doctors children on the holodeck.

Naomi "You're the Doctor's children? Wow!"

Jeffery "He locked us in a box and forgot about us."

Belle "Be careful he doesn't do the same thing to you."

...

Gosh, the actress who played Belle, is now Sookie's cousin on True Blood.

I might have seen her boobies.

How disturbing.
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Old January 10 2013, 12:46 PM   #4
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Re: Why wasn't Naomi more socially maladjusted?

I wish I had her childhood.

NO SCHOOL. No little shits tormenting me.. interesting adults who went out of their way to interact with me to make my childhood a positive experience. Important impressive people like the Captain full of good will about my development. ADVENTURE. Never having to go shopping. Lots of books and holoprograms and the best windows ever in any childhood to look out of.
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Old January 10 2013, 01:07 PM   #5
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Re: Why wasn't Naomi more socially maladjusted?

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I wish I had her childhood.

NO SCHOOL. No little shits tormenting me.. interesting adults who went out of their way to interact with me to make my childhood a positive experience. Important impressive people like the Captain full of good will about my development. ADVENTURE. Never having to go shopping. Lots of books and holoprograms and the best windows ever in any childhood to look out of.
Indeed, why should it necessarily maladjust her when it could as easily make her life extraordinary.
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Old January 10 2013, 02:15 PM   #6
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Re: Why wasn't Naomi more socially maladjusted?

And it didn't make her entitled?

Although, this is what she was like while having 5 to ten hours a day of care and tutoring from Neelix... So what's she going to be like after all the insipid treakleness from the Kitchen rat is out of her system?

Miral Paris (In the original timeline) spent 14 years of her childhood on Voyager, and (All that human DNA must have made her age a lot slower than a Klingon child who looks like an adult, and is an adult by the time they're 8 or nine.) didnt mind at all when Admiral Janeway ordered her to dig not only her own grave, but the grave of every other bugger in the universe.

But she was pretty too.
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Old January 10 2013, 09:36 PM   #7
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Re: Why wasn't Naomi more socially maladjusted?

I'd still love to have seen a future Naomi more akin to the future Scarlett If only VOY had continued a few more series we might have got Wildman: The Goth Years.

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Old January 10 2013, 10:01 PM   #8
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Re: Why wasn't Naomi more socially maladjusted?

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Old January 10 2013, 10:11 PM   #9
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Re: Why wasn't Naomi more socially maladjusted?

I bet she was really messed up.
When they made it back to Earth, she probably would try and get her boyfriend to dress up like Flotter, in bed.
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Old January 10 2013, 10:46 PM   #10
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I would think it's more likely she just can't handle teasing and has to have everything her way.
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Old January 10 2013, 10:48 PM   #11
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Re: Why wasn't Naomi more socially maladjusted?

She would just look at the teasers like they were pitiful maladjusted lower life forms and walk away.
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Old January 10 2013, 10:52 PM   #12
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She would just look at the teasers like they were pitiful maladjusted lower life forms and walk away.
Exactly, except she would run to an adult and try to get them to intervene because that's her conflict resolution on Voyager. She hasn't learned any social coping skills, she just knows, cry to an adult and they will fix any problem for her.

And when she was a teenager and started dating, I think she'd insist on everything being her way, and at the slightest hint of resistance she'd start crying and interpret the situation in terms of "Why are YOU doing this to ME?" Then when they dumped her she would come to the conclusion "He was just a horrible person."

She'd basically have all the personality traits of a rich home schooled kid but none of the money that lets them get away with it.
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Old January 10 2013, 10:58 PM   #13
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Re: Why wasn't Naomi more socially maladjusted?

Yes, I've seen the pictures, but don't you mean... Wildeman:The Wildwoman Years?
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Old January 11 2013, 04:27 AM   #14
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When I imagine how a child with a childhood like Naomi might turn out, I imagine somebody who's good at charming and manipulating adults, but has boundaries issues, a sense of entitlement, a need to be the center of attention, and difficulty relating to other children her age.
Because one Wesley was enough.
That and Will Wheton received tons of hate mail from fans due to his character. TPTB were kind enough not to want to put another young child thru that again. Good for them, nobody needs another Dana Plato.
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Old January 11 2013, 06:43 AM   #15
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Re: Why wasn't Naomi more socially maladjusted?

Adult Naomi seemed lovely in Shattered.

Why didn't we see an older Naomi in Before and After which was at it's furtherest was an alternate season 7?
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