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Old July 7 2013, 01:29 PM   #181
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FFS. Vettel procession then. Good job Nico, ruining Hamilton's race, asshole.

Hope that cameraman is okay.
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Old July 7 2013, 01:55 PM   #182
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Yep lets hope the cmaera man is ok, but what where Mercedes playing it. Lewis and Nico where running countra strategies as soon as Lewis was on his rear he should have let him by. But it is his home race.
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Old July 7 2013, 01:58 PM   #183
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Vettel yet again benefits from a safety car (well, everyone but Hamilton benefiting). Race is pretty much ruined now.
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Old July 7 2013, 02:46 PM   #184
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Well that's it. Fingerboy has officially ruined the WDC (barring a string of DNFs with Alonso or Kimi wins).

Come back, Bridgestone, come back!
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Old July 7 2013, 02:46 PM   #185
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A couple more laps and Kimi would have had him.
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Old July 7 2013, 02:50 PM   #186
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It would have been a Hamilton procession if they weren't running on comedy Pirellis.

Anyway, RBR can piss off with their whine about Merc possibly benefiting from the tyre test now, because it clearly didn't help them at all.
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Old July 7 2013, 02:52 PM   #187
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The more important news is however from listening to Horner that the cameraman is ok apart from some brusing.
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Old July 7 2013, 02:53 PM   #188
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Poor start + not enough grip + stuck behind team mate = Lewis' race. Dammit. I have to I admit I don't understand the team order saying for Nico to "not hold him up". That gave Nico too much leeway and he damn well did hold Lewis up when they were essentially running different races and shouldn't have been fighting each other.

Same goes for Lotus - Grosjean was told not to hold Kimi up, when an order to unambiguously release him would have given Kimi race position and clear air a couple of laps earlier than he got, and therefore could have been in the DRS zone earlier.

If you're going to use team orders, do it right. "Don't hold him up" can backfire, "Let him though" is much safer and releases a driver quick smart.
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Old July 7 2013, 03:01 PM   #189
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I translated as "Don't hold him up" to mean move over and let him overtake
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Old July 7 2013, 03:05 PM   #190
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Great race for Vettel! Glad to see the cameraman is okay even though I cheered when Webber lost it. Also Hamilton can fuck off. I have friends coming to stay with me this week and they are big Hamilton fans and I'm going to enjoy rubbing this win in their faces.
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Old July 7 2013, 03:06 PM   #191
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I translated as "Don't hold him up" to mean move over and let him overtake
But a driver can interpret "Don't hold him up" to mean "If I'm faster than him, I'm not letting him past". As we saw today, Lewis and Kimi were behind their team mates a lot longer than they should have been after the order was given. "Let him through" doesn't have the same ambiguity and would have been a better order.
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Old July 7 2013, 03:16 PM   #192
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Good to hear the cameraman is okay! I felt sick when I saw that incident, knowing what has happened in the past when people have been struck by bouncing tyres. He's quite lucky, as it could have quite easily smashed his spine up if it had hit him at a different angle, and a blow to the chest or the neck/head would have been catastrophic.

Anyway yeah, Grosjean really didn't do Kimi any favours at all. If he had got past a couple of laps earlier, that could have made the difference. Nico holding Lewis up didn't do too much harm in the end anyway, in terms of podium prospects, as the Mercs destroyed their tyres anyway even in clean air.

To be fair to Vettel, as much as I can't stand the guy, he drove a faultless race, and it is his first home GP win. Hopefully he'll DNF a couple of times in the next few races to even out the WDC, though.

Also, Marussia need to invest in handbrakes.
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Old July 7 2013, 03:50 PM   #193
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^Yep that'll need looking into as well. That could have caused an accident.
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Old July 10 2013, 08:44 PM   #194
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And non-essential people i.e. cameramen have been banned from the pitline following t=Webber's errand tyre.

Seems like a touch of an over-reaction, the Tyre could just have easily hit a member of another tieam's pit crew. The prblem wasnt the camerman being there, the problem was the unsafe release.

And the fine US$30 000 seemed a touch on the low side. Still at least it was more than Force India got with their US$5000 fine for an unsafe release in the same race.
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Old July 10 2013, 08:49 PM   #195
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Seems like a touch of an over-reaction, the Tyre could just have easily hit a member of another tieam's pit crew. The prblem wasnt the camerman being there, the problem was the unsafe release.
I think the reasoning for that is that other pit crews are somewhat protected by their gear (i.E. helmet), while cameramen are not.
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