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Old January 24 2013, 02:34 PM   #106
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Re: Worst lines of dialogue in the entire series?

Poor dialogue ... yes, it does exist.


"Commander, the cloaking device is gone!"


(spoken after the Commander and other Romulans had all been in the room for several seconds, well aware that there would be an attempt to steal the cloaking device, and nobody had noticed anything except the unconscious guard on the floor behind where the cloaking device should have been quite prominently on display in the center of the room)
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Old January 24 2013, 05:14 PM   #107
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It was inwented by Russians.
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Old January 24 2013, 06:53 PM   #108
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Poor dialogue ... yes, it does exist.


"Commander, the cloaking device is gone!"


(spoken after the Commander and other Romulans had all been in the room for several seconds, well aware that there would be an attempt to steal the cloaking device, and nobody had noticed anything except the unconscious guard on the floor behind where the cloaking device should have been quite prominently on display in the center of the room)
That's a good one! Maybe the Romulans are just bumbling idiots, but "We are surrounded" has no meaning when the Enterprise can just fire up it's engines and "Move away at extreme speed" any time it wants to.

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Old January 24 2013, 11:35 PM   #109
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Part of the problem with that cloaking device scene was Dorothy Fontana intended for it to be much smaller, possibly easily held in a hand. Instead, it was the size of a table lamp.
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Old January 24 2013, 11:44 PM   #110
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Part of the problem with that cloaking device scene was Dorothy Fontana intended for it to be much smaller, possibly easily held in a hand. Instead, it was the size of a table lamp.
Ah, that also explains why Kirk unfathomably had trouble finding the bloody thing.
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Old January 25 2013, 12:03 AM   #111
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And he never uses a tricorder to find it, he somehow intuitively just grabs it. It could have been a waste extraction module, for all he knew.
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Old January 25 2013, 12:52 AM   #112
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And he never uses a tricorder to find it, he somehow intuitively just grabs it. It could have been a waste extraction module, for all he knew.
Great discussion. Gawd, I thought the cloaking device was too small as it was. Let's face it, Enterprise Incident probably has more "holes" in it than any other episode.

The point is, all the worst dialogue is going to be in Season Three, because Gene Coon had left the show, and so had Robert Justman. When i started this thread, what I meant by worst dialogue was dialogue that is clumsy or inept, not necessarily reflecting poor or non-credible plot points alone... dialogue that doesn't flow very well and is awkward.

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Old January 25 2013, 12:55 AM   #113
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And he never uses a tricorder to find it, he somehow intuitively just grabs it. It could have been a waste extraction module, for all he knew.
Great discussion. Gawd, I thought the cloaking device was too small as it was. Let's face it, Enterprise Incident probably has more "holes" in it than any other episode.

The point is, all the worst dialogue is going to be in Season Three, because Gene Coon had left the show, and so had Robert Justman. When i started this thread, what I meant by worst dialogue was dialogue that is clumsy or inept, not necessarily reflecting poor or non-credible plot points alone... dialogue that doesn't flow very well and is awkward.

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I thought Gene Coon wrote some episodes under Lee Cronin?

Coon had a hand in these four episodes:

Spock's Brain
Spectre of the Gun
Wink of an Eye
Let That Be Your Last Battlefield
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Old January 25 2013, 01:16 AM   #114
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Yes, Coon wrote episodes under the name "Lee Cronin" during the third season (for contractual reasons). He wasn't on staff, however, which meant he wasn't around to do re-writes.

(He actually left during the second season; John Meredyth Lucas assumed his role for the remainder of that year.)
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Old January 25 2013, 07:46 AM   #115
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Yes, Coon wrote episodes under the name "Lee Cronin" during the third season (for contractual reasons). He wasn't on staff, however, which meant he wasn't around to do re-writes.

(He actually left during the second season; John Meredyth Lucas assumed his role for the remainder of that year.)

Yes Bill J, that's an extremely good point. But each script did not get "polished" as before. There are a lot more rough edges. The scripts seem to have less depth, only surface action, not the multi-layered character interaction we had seen before, IMHO.

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Old January 25 2013, 09:55 AM   #116
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Oh goodness, I just watched Conscience of the King. Love the episode, but some of the dialogue from Kodos' daughter was laugh-out-loud awful - especially when she starts talking about throbbing...
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Old January 26 2013, 01:58 PM   #117
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There was a really poorly dubbed line in Patterns of Force, IIRC. Isak's line is dubbed in while they hide out in the science lab; something along the lines of "Yes. Now we can steal a car, get out of the capital". No groundbreaking awfulness, but it always takes me out of the story a bit because it's so out of place with his lip movements!
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Old January 26 2013, 02:38 PM   #118
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"Captain, I'm scared!"
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Old January 26 2013, 04:43 PM   #119
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''Shut up, Chekov!!!! You've.........got to COPE!!!!''

For the absolute worst dubbing moment in the history of TV, go straight to the opening credits of THE CLOUD MINDERS, then wonder why Shatner didn't quit his day job to become a ventriloquist.
This could only happen in the third year.
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Old January 26 2013, 11:13 PM   #120
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''Shut up, Chekov!!!! You've.........got to COPE!!!!''

For the absolute worst dubbing moment in the history of TV, go straight to the opening credits of THE CLOUD MINDERS, then wonder why Shatner didn't quit his day job to become a ventriloquist.
This could only happen in the third year.

Yeah, I know that one! A line of dialogue is spoken, but his lips don't move. Incredible. As I recall it happens elsewhere in the series...can't recall where.

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