Does nu-Trek exclude Enterprise too?

[The Wormhole]

The similarities between the Enterprise J and NX-01 weren't meant to be intentional. They just needed something quickly to display on that monitor and so they just modified the CG mesh of the NX-01 to make it look futiristic. Interestingly enough though, if you remove the saucer from the Enterprise J you could have something that seems to be an evolution of Klingon design merged with Federation technology. I always thought that was kind of cool.

[King Daniel]

I came across this while googling and thought it might be of interest. Someone who was there when they were filming the Starfleet Academy scenes at the CSUN's Oviatt Library says there was a picture of the NX-01 inside the building.
http://trekmovie.com/2008/03/18/csun...cademy/#524276

Comment 65:

Hat Rick wrote:

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The interior of Oviatt Library was set- dressed with photographs drawn from NASA and other sources. There was also what appeared to be a photo of the NX-01, albeit in futurized form. As a joke, there was also a tipped-over photograph of a bull on the photo display at the rear of the front entranced hall.

2. The Oviatt glass doors were decorated with the Starfleet emblem.

3. SPOILER: At approximately 4:00 p.m., about a hundred cadets rushed toward the eastern blue screen at the Quadrangle and craned their necks upward with excitement as if looking at a starship landing.
You heard it here first, folks. I was there.

Comment 86:

The futurized NX-01 was a framed print of a fairly elaborate painting and showed it passing through about several large planets and a small moon. I don’t know if it was a preproduction concept painting before the NX-01 design had been finalized for the series, Enterprise, but it didn’t look like it to me.

Comment 129:

One tidbit about the “futurized” NX-01: There are downward-sloping fins protruding from the belly of each nacelle and what seems to be some kind of gun- type thing where the main navigational deflector dish would be. The fins are fairly long — I woudl say about a quarter to a third the length of the nacelles themselves. It’s definitely not the NX-01 of the TV series

Sounds like they were filming the scene where the cadets run to see Nero's drill beam firing into the bay.

If this account is true and the inside of the library was dressed, maybe the NX-01 picture would have been visible through the glass if they'd shot Kirk and McCoy's pre-Kobayashi Maru scene coming down the stairs from a different angle or started talking inside the building or something.

[Dukhat]

Well, if we haven't seen this painting of the futuristic NX-01 for five years, I doubt we'll see it any time soon.

[Aeolusdallas]

King Daniel wrote:

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Word of God (Bob Orci over at Trekmovie.com) says it's a branching timeline beginning in 2233, that it's one shared history up until that point. And since it's a shared past, it would include all the time travels up and down from the prime-branch (and other branches) of the future and thus include the TCW, First Contact, Time's Arrow etc.


This is the Holy Bible of Star Trek time travel. It takes dozens of seemingly incompatible time travel Treks over 45 years and makes it seem as if they all function as part of a single system with a consistent set of rules. It explains a lot of the TCW, exposes Future Guy, gives us a look at the DTI and a peek at the uptime agencies seen in Voyager and Enterprise and how they all interact. Plus it's an excellent story in it's own right. Highly recommended.

Both Temporal agency books are great

[shatastrophic]

Yeah but in the upcoming Film Star Trek Into Water, when the nu-crew goes back to 1986 to get humpback whales they are gonna run into the original crew doing the same thing.

[Sindatur]

shatastrophic wrote:

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Yeah but in the upcoming Film Star Trek Into Water, when the nu-crew goes back to 1986 to get humpback whales they are gonna run into the original crew doing the same thing.

How do you figure that? If they Time Travel in a "Branch timelines" manner, they will create a new timeline, so, the original TOS crew won't be there. If they time travel in a "Within your own tmeline" manner, then they are the only original crew

[Mr. Laser Beam]

shatastrophic wrote:

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Yeah but in the upcoming Film Star Trek Into Water, when the nu-crew goes back to 1986 to get humpback whales they are gonna run into the original crew doing the same thing.

The whale probe might not even encounter Earth in this timeline. There could be any number of things that divert it.

[shatastrophic]

Mr. Laser Beam wrote:

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The whale probe might not even encounter Earth in this timeline. There could be any number of things that divert it.

Yeah I know...but all in good fun

[TheRoyalFamily]

Lance wrote:

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Am I misremembering, or is the first scene where Seven mentions the Borg incursion in VOY played as if the other characters have no idea what she's talking about? Could it be that Seven has got 'race memories' of the Borg incursion timeline, which none of the Starfleet personel recognise because they're all still part of an older order of things, pre-timeline change?

Voyager got sent to the Delta Quadrant in 2371. First Contact happened in 2373 (SD 50893.5). They got Seven right at the beginning of 2374 (SD 51003.7 is "Scorpion Pt.2"). So they wouldn't know about that whole incident (and no one historically knew about the Borg, even with that one episode of ENT), but Seven would know because she was still a Borg when it happened.

[BenRoethig]

Awesome Possum wrote:

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Remember the MST3K mantra, "Repeat to yourself it's just a show, I really should relax."

Based on the Admiral Archer line, NX-01 was in their past and Archer apparently lived to see the 1701 launched. So that was probably him who lost his prized beagle. Poor guy.

Whether it was Jonathan or a descendant (he'd be 140 or so) is one of those things up for interpretation. However, it is clearly an allusion to Enterprise.

[Captain59]

King Daniel wrote:

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This is the Holy Bible of Star Trek time travel. It takes dozens of seemingly incompatible time travel Treks over 45 years and makes it seem as if they all function as part of a single system with a consistent set of rules. It explains a lot of the TCW, exposes Future Guy...

Braga recently revealed that Future Guy was an older Jonathan Archer. Does the book identify him as someone else?

[R. Star]

BenRoethig wrote:

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Whether it was Jonathan or a descendant (he'd be 140 or so) is one of those things up for interpretation. However, it is clearly an allusion to Enterprise.

That line made me laugh. I was definitely thinking of Enterprise's Archer. They could've just been calling him Admiral as a courtesy even if he was long since not active.

[King Daniel]

Captain59 wrote:

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Braga recently revealed that Future Guy was an older Jonathan Archer. Does the book identify him as someone else?

Braga was speaking (or tweeting) from the wrong end. They had previously said that Future Guy "was probably Romulan" and that they never had any real plan for the character.

Future Guy in DTI: Watching the Clock is definitely not Jonathan Archer. He's revealed to be...

A Romulan/Suliban/Tandaren hybrid named Jamran Harnoth.

[BillJ]

I always thought Future Guy should've been Henry Archer.

[Gov Kodos]

Archer's beagle says woof.