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Old January 29 2013, 09:21 PM   #661
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Re: Abrams turns Star Wars because of his "loyalty" to Trek

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Spock and Uhuru are shagging now because this Twilight-esque cross-species mopey business about a sexy ancient creature romancing a young woman is in vogue now
No.
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Old January 29 2013, 09:21 PM   #662
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Well, that was helpful...
As an actual Star Wars quote, it's the most on-topic this thread has been in some time.
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Old January 29 2013, 09:22 PM   #663
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And yet it didn't even remotely address my questions.
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Old January 29 2013, 09:23 PM   #664
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Star Trek isn't 2001, so shouldn't aspire to be. It shouldn't aspire to be Star Wars either.
but yet it was a "popcorn actiuon movie" that most normal fans don't give a rats ass about...
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Old January 29 2013, 09:24 PM   #665
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Star Trek isn't 2001, so shouldn't aspire to be. It shouldn't aspire to be Star Wars either.
but yet it was a "popcorn actiuon movie" that most normal fans don't give a rats ass about...
Ah.. the 'true fan' gambit where you get to define what a 'normal fan' is or like as long as that fan likes what you like?
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Old January 29 2013, 09:24 PM   #666
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Well, I'm gonna report your vileness...
It's all good.

But I'm just really confused how someone who got an 'A' on a Hitchcock dissertation could miss the incredibly obvious clues in regards to Spock's character?
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Old January 29 2013, 09:24 PM   #667
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And yet it didn't even remotely address my questions.
I've already been called a "prick" by 2 militant Spock/Uhura shippers for giving my views so I can't be bothered any more. Nothing I say will satisfy you so it is best to just leave it and get back to Star Wars.

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But I'm just really confused how someone who got an 'A' on a Hitchcock dissertation could miss the incredibly obvious clues in regards to Spock's character?
I haven't missed anything. I've said that I find Spock more interesting when he isn't a traditionally romantic hero, but an asexual man of logic and science as those are rarer in TV/film. You then bought up rare examples of him acting romantic on the old show, which I don't like either. Then you called me a prick.
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Old January 29 2013, 09:25 PM   #668
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Star Trek isn't 2001, so shouldn't aspire to be. It shouldn't aspire to be Star Wars either.
but yet it was a "popcorn actiuon movie" that most normal fans don't give a rats ass about...
Ah.. the 'true fan' gambit where you get to define what a 'normal fan' is or like as long as that fan likes what you like?
What is the definition of a 'normal fan', Captain Mike?



Do I qualify?
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Old January 29 2013, 09:29 PM   #669
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Re: Abrams turns Star Wars because of his "loyalty" to Trek

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but yet it was a "popcorn actiuon movie" that most normal fans don't give a rats ass about...
Ah.. the 'true fan' gambit where you get to define what a 'normal fan' is or like as long as that fan likes what you like?
What is the definition of a 'normal fan', Captain Mike?
So sorry I struck your TBBS'ers nerve on what a true fan is...I meant normal movie goer....my bad.
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Old January 29 2013, 09:29 PM   #670
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Star Trek isn't 2001, so shouldn't aspire to be. It shouldn't aspire to be Star Wars either.
but yet it was a "popcorn actiuon movie" that most normal fans don't give a rats ass about...
Well Im sure Paramount cared so much about that...since they gave JJ Abrams $150 Million to make another one.
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Old January 29 2013, 09:30 PM   #671
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Re: Abrams turns Star Wars because of his "loyalty" to Trek

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Well, I'm gonna report your vileness...
It's all good.

But I'm just really confused how someone who got an 'A' on a Hitchcock dissertation could miss the incredibly obvious clues in regards to Spock's character?
Eh? How can you get an A on a dissertation? I can't think of any UK Universities that use the A-F standard because of AQA guidance.
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Old January 29 2013, 09:30 PM   #672
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but yet it was a "popcorn actiuon movie" that most normal fans don't give a rats ass about...
Ah.. the 'true fan' gambit where you get to define what a 'normal fan' is or like as long as that fan likes what you like?
What is the definition of a 'normal fan', Captain Mike?



Do I qualify?
Is that all Bill????
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Old January 29 2013, 09:32 PM   #673
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Star Trek isn't 2001, so shouldn't aspire to be. It shouldn't aspire to be Star Wars either.
but yet it was a "popcorn actiuon movie" that most normal fans don't give a rats ass about...
Well Im sure Paramount cared so much about that...since they gave JJ Abrams $150 Million to make another one.

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Ah.. the 'true fan' gambit where you get to define what a 'normal fan' is or like as long as that fan likes what you like?
What is the definition of a 'normal fan', Captain Mike?
So sorry I struck your TBBS'ers nerve on what a true fan is...I meant normal movie goer....my bad.
Well the normal movie goer gave much more of a shit about this film, compared to any previous ones.
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Old January 29 2013, 09:32 PM   #674
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Eh? How can you get an A on a dissertation? I can't think of any UK Universities that use the A-F standard because of AQA guidance.
I got an A on my dissertation and I've friends in the 2 or so years above me who also got graded on that scale so it isn't a new thing.
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Old January 29 2013, 09:33 PM   #675
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I think what your missing DalekJim is exactly what The Stig is talking about in his post. There is a moment of childhood magic that no review or dissertation can take away from fans of the original series. When I watched the movie it was like being a kid sitting in front of our old floor-model 25" color TV again.
No offence but your inarticulate, cosey, nostalgic, twee, gut-reactions are of no real use if you aren't able to explain them.
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I think what your missing DalekJim is exactly what The Stig is talking about in his post. There is a moment of childhood magic that no review or dissertation can take away from fans of the original series. When I watched the movie it was like being a kid sitting in front of our old floor-model 25" color TV again.
No offence but your inarticulate, cosey, nostalgic, twee, gut-reactions are of no real use if you aren't able to explain them.
If you're going to be an elitist prick, own it. You can't preface an offensive statement with 'no offense' and calmly assume that your hands are clean.

I hate to break it to you (that's a lie, I'm enjoying it quite a bit) but we're talking about entertainment. It is, by definition, a gut-reaction affair. We can go round and round on the mechanics behind it but at the end of the day these movies, television shows, books, comics, and games exist to produce an emotional response.
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If you're going to be an elitist prick
Could you be any more of a Top Gear fan? You're acting so loutish and faux-alpha male that I flat out refuse to talk to you anymore. Can't be good for my brain at all.
You're acting like an immature prick. Acting like you're better than other folks because you're above liking a popcorn action flick. Which you originally liked, btw.

* Just give me the infraction for flaming now. No need to post that I'm getting one.
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