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Old December 26 2012, 08:19 PM   #46
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Star Trek is a show about a group of people that travel the stars.
that's how I felt about ds9. Turned out I was wrong.
They didn't travel the stars in DS9?
well, it was about a space station while other trek series have been about star ships. Have you seen it?
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Old December 26 2012, 08:22 PM   #47
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DS9 was a spin-off designed to compliment TNG. It would have been pointless if it had the same premise.

JJ-Trek is all we have and watching it is a joyless, depressing experience. It seems to hold imagination and intelligence in utter contempt. Not that Abrams cares, he's laughing while counting the massive profits he made. A real life Ferengi. He will never understand Star Trek and return to making dumb Mission: Impossible movies when he has whored out Trek for all his needs.
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Old December 26 2012, 08:25 PM   #48
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that's how I felt about ds9. Turned out I was wrong.
They didn't travel the stars in DS9?
Also, DS9 was a spin-off designed to compliment TNG. It would have been pointless if it had the same premise.
I think you guys are missing the point.

the origional quote said star trek was about people traveling the stars. Clearly that wasn't ds9's origional premise yet it is still star trek.

you can't take blanket statements that don't even apply to the rest of the franchise and then use it to say the nu movie is crap.
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Old December 26 2012, 08:28 PM   #49
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that's how I felt about ds9. Turned out I was wrong.
They didn't travel the stars in DS9?
well, it was about a space station while other trek series have been about star ships. Have you seen it?
I have seen it, but I have never seen what's the big deal about starship vs. space station is. We get an exterior shot of ship or station, then we cut to small rooms, corridors and turbo lifts. Both ship and station have a ready room for the Captain and a bridge where most of the expositionary dialogue happens. It's not a big difference.
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Old December 26 2012, 08:30 PM   #50
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They didn't travel the stars in DS9?
well, it was about a space station while other trek series have been about star ships. Have you seen it?
I have seen it, but I have never seen what's the big deal about starship vs. space station is. We get an exterior shot of ship or station, then we cut to small rooms, corridors and turbo lifts. Both ship and station have a ready room for the Captain and a bridge where most of the expositionary dialogue happens. It's not a big difference.
neither do I. If you look back to my original post I was being sarcastic.
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Old December 26 2012, 09:00 PM   #51
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Too bad. Abrams would make a hell of an awesome Star Wars film.
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Old December 26 2012, 09:37 PM   #52
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DS9 was a spin-off designed to compliment TNG. It would have been pointless if it had the same premise.

JJ-Trek is all we have and watching it is a joyless, depressing experience. It seems to hold imagination and intelligence in utter contempt. Not that Abrams cares, he's laughing while counting the massive profits he made. A real life Ferengi. He will never understand Star Trek and return to making dumb Mission: Impossible movies when he has whored out Trek for all his needs.
So are such a bitter, angry person!

I did not think JJ's first film was perfect. It had some big flaws. So don't think I am saying this to you because I am just a gushing fan of that movie. But its hard to take you seriously when you are such a drama queen.
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Old December 26 2012, 09:46 PM   #53
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So are such a bitter, angry person!
First time on TrekBBS?
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Old December 26 2012, 09:47 PM   #54
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JJ-Trek is all we have and watching it is a joyless, depressing experience.
"Depressing"??
Very glad I'm not you. I enjoy life and I'm enjoying JJ's movies.
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Old December 26 2012, 09:53 PM   #55
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So are such a bitter, angry person!
First time on TrekBBS?
No, I been here since 2001! I seen a lot. But this is a "special". A new Star Trek is getting closer and all the crazies start to come out of the woodwork.
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Old December 26 2012, 09:55 PM   #56
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Not liking the same movie you like does not make me insane.
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Old December 26 2012, 09:57 PM   #57
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Not liking the same movie you like does not make me insane.
But apparently liking movies you hate makes others dumb, self-loathing and desperate, right?
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Old December 26 2012, 09:58 PM   #58
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I don't understand a word of what you just said.
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Old December 26 2012, 10:03 PM   #59
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I don't understand a word of what you just said.
Really? You don't like being called names for not liking movies but you don't seem to have trouble calling others names for the same reason.

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A very true observation of modern Trek fandom. You get these self-loathing Trekkies that are desperate not to be perceived as geeks or different by the mainstream. They welcome JJ Abrams as it means MTV, E! and the tabloids now care about Star Trek, as if that's a good thing.
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Old December 26 2012, 10:04 PM   #60
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No, I been here since 2001! I seen a lot. But this is a "special". A new Star Trek is getting closer and all the crazies start to come out of the woodwork.
When the last movie came out, there was a "Bad Reboot" troll (who's actually a board regular) who whined day in and day out about it, and when he was running out of bullet points, even went as far as to say that real Star Trek movies don't make money and are only supposed to appeal to a niche audience.
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