The Snowmen Grading and Discussion Thread - Page 5

DalekJim · December 26 2012, 02:18 AM

To me The Doctor is too weird and alien to mope when he can't see his friends again. In fact, if he were the type of person to miss people then he's living the precise wrong lifestyle really as he's never going to have any constant presences in his life apart from the TARDIS. It's also just messed up that he's cool when Adric dies yet becomes a hermit when Amy and Rory merely get separated from him in time.

It's just naff soap opera drama to appeal to a wider audience of casuals who would otherwise have no time for sci-fi or fantasy. Thankfully this type of stuff has been toned WAY down since 2010 but there's still enough to bother me.

My favourite Doctor is McCoy precisely because he'd never do something like this. The Doctor shouldn't have human emotional vulnerabilities and should have the perspective of a Time Lord.

Procutus · December 26 2012, 03:01 AM

All right, we're underway with the BBCA broadcast!

Saul · December 26 2012, 03:05 AM

Finally an episode where I feel that we're "back" to the Doctor Who I know and love. Last year's Christmas episode was useless. This years was fantastic even though the way those snowmen were defeated was meh, the rest of it had me gripped and shockingly, my family too. A lot of talky scenes but they were good talky scenes and those Sherlock references were heaven. Matt Smith's face in the opening titles, f(xmas)king awesome!

Procutus · December 26 2012, 03:10 AM

Psychotic potato-dwarf!

Procutus · December 26 2012, 03:16 AM

Saul wrote:

Finally an episode where I feel that we're "back" to the Doctor Who I know and love.

Ditto that, I'm only about 12 minutes into it, but it DOES feel a bit like Classic Who. Awesome. And Jenna-Louis Coleman is frakkin' hot!

Matt Smith's face in the opening titles, f(xmas)king awesome!

Nice touch.

Ar-Pharazon · December 26 2012, 03:16 AM

Procutus wrote:

Psychotic potato-dwarf!

I think I've been run over by a cab!

At least we know that this is Strax after AGMGTW, if only vaguely. This makes me happy.

DalekJim · December 26 2012, 03:19 AM

Procutus wrote:

Ditto that, I'm only about 12 minutes into it, but it DOES feel a bit like Classic Who. Awesome.

Hmmm. Didn't have much of a classic feel for me. Pace was too fast and Murray Gold too prominent. Still a good atmosphere in parts though and I dug it.

And Jenna-Louis Coleman is frakkin' hot!

Sexiest companion ever along with Romana I. Droooooooooooooooooool.

Matt Smith's face in the opening titles, f(xmas)king awesome!

Oh, that was the best. Wonderful.

Procutus · December 26 2012, 03:21 AM

DalekJim wrote:

My favourite Doctor is McCoy precisely because he'd never do something like this. The Doctor shouldn't have human emotional vulnerabilities and should have the perspective of a Time Lord.

I agree with what you're saying in that I too, feel that the Doctor has become far more touchy-feely and emotional since the show's return in nearly a decade ago. Tom Baker was my favorite; he conveyed just enough quirkiness and distance at times from his companions to be believably alien.

Procutus · December 26 2012, 03:23 AM

DalekJim wrote:

Procutus wrote:

Ditto that, I'm only about 12 minutes into it, but it DOES feel a bit like Classic Who. Awesome.

Hmmm. Didn't have much of a classic feel for me.

Mind you, I said 'a bit'.

Procutus · December 26 2012, 03:32 AM

The One-Word Test was the best scene so far. I find I'm liking this Christmas Special better than any of the previous ones.

DalekJim · December 26 2012, 03:41 AM

Procutus wrote:

I agree with what you're saying in that I too, feel that the Doctor has become far more touchy-feely and emotional since the show's return in nearly a decade ago.

Agreed. Hell, Tennant seemed to spend 50% of his screentime in tears.

It's to make the character more relatable to audiences in order to get the huge ratings the show gets but it's a bit annoying really. I love The Doctor because he isn't a conventional TV hero that cries when his love interest is gone. He's... weird. And that's fine.

Procutus · December 26 2012, 03:46 AM

DalekJim wrote:

He's... weird. And that's fine.

Well, that was Baker, all right!

Procutus · December 26 2012, 03:48 AM

"Good evening. I'm a Lizard-woman from the Dawn of Time."

Bacl · December 26 2012, 03:49 AM

Lonemagpie wrote:

Gep Malakai wrote:

^Do we see any more of the TARDIS interior than just the control room?

no, we didn't

And we won't. They haven't yet, with the exception of a hallway, and they won't start now.

Procutus · December 26 2012, 03:50 AM

Did I mention that Jenna-Louis Coleman is insanely hot?

View Poll Results: How do you rate The Snowmen?
God bless us, every one! (Fantastic)	63	45.65%
Full of Christmas cheer (Very Good)	45	32.61%
Not a classic, but jolly good fun (Good)	24	17.39%
Not enough Robot Santas (Fair)	3	2.17%
Bah humbug! (Terrible)	3	2.17%
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December 26 2012, 02:18 AM	#61
DalekJim Fleet Captain Location: Great Britain	Re: The Snowmen Grading and Discussion Thread To me The Doctor is too weird and alien to mope when he can't see his friends again. In fact, if he were the type of person to miss people then he's living the precise wrong lifestyle really as he's never going to have any constant presences in his life apart from the TARDIS. It's also just messed up that he's cool when Adric dies yet becomes a hermit when Amy and Rory merely get separated from him in time. It's just naff soap opera drama to appeal to a wider audience of casuals who would otherwise have no time for sci-fi or fantasy. Thankfully this type of stuff has been toned WAY down since 2010 but there's still enough to bother me. My favourite Doctor is McCoy precisely because he'd never do something like this. The Doctor shouldn't have human emotional vulnerabilities and should have the perspective of a Time Lord. __________________ The Paradox Machine - My blog "A harp can be as dangerous as a sword, in the right hands." - A Storm of Swords by George R.R. Martin

December 26 2012, 03:01 AM	#62
Procutus Admiral Location: Back behind my keyboard	Re: The Snowmen Grading and Discussion Thread All right, we're underway with the BBCA broadcast! __________________ "When I became Doctor Who, I didn't play Doctor Who, I was Doctor Who. There was no acting involved at all." - Tom Baker

December 26 2012, 03:05 AM	#63
Saul Rear Admiral Location: 東京	Re: The Snowmen Grading and Discussion Thread Finally an episode where I feel that we're "back" to the Doctor Who I know and love. Last year's Christmas episode was useless. This years was fantastic even though the way those snowmen were defeated was meh, the rest of it had me gripped and shockingly, my family too. A lot of talky scenes but they were good talky scenes and those Sherlock references were heaven. Matt Smith's face in the opening titles, f(xmas)king awesome! __________________ "It's not that you can see the strings, it's that 40 years later you're still looking at them." - Steven Moffat "This movie was big. Imagine how big it could have been with me in it?" William Shatner

December 26 2012, 03:10 AM	#64
Procutus Admiral Location: Back behind my keyboard	Re: The Snowmen Grading and Discussion Thread Psychotic potato-dwarf! __________________ "When I became Doctor Who, I didn't play Doctor Who, I was Doctor Who. There was no acting involved at all." - Tom Baker

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December 26 2012, 03:32 AM	#70
Procutus Admiral Location: Back behind my keyboard	Re: The Snowmen Grading and Discussion Thread The One-Word Test was the best scene so far. I find I'm liking this Christmas Special better than any of the previous ones. __________________ "When I became Doctor Who, I didn't play Doctor Who, I was Doctor Who. There was no acting involved at all." - Tom Baker

December 26 2012, 03:48 AM	#73
Procutus Admiral Location: Back behind my keyboard	Re: The Snowmen Grading and Discussion Thread "Good evening. I'm a Lizard-woman from the Dawn of Time." __________________ "When I became Doctor Who, I didn't play Doctor Who, I was Doctor Who. There was no acting involved at all." - Tom Baker

December 26 2012, 03:50 AM	#75
Procutus Admiral Location: Back behind my keyboard	Re: The Snowmen Grading and Discussion Thread Did I mention that Jenna-Louis Coleman is insanely hot? __________________ "When I became Doctor Who, I didn't play Doctor Who, I was Doctor Who. There was no acting involved at all." - Tom Baker