Was Voyager better?

[Guy Gardener]

I hung in for the first year because I wanted to see Data and Yar hook up again.

Then in the second year I prayed that Pulaski would fall down another elevator shaft (LA Law.) before she hooked up with Picard.

Third year, I came to my senses and realized that no one was going to hook up.

Not Shelby and Riker

Not leah Brhams and Geordie.

Not Lefler and Wesley

Not... Hey The Chief is getting married to a complete hottie!

Where the hell did that come from?

Good lord look at Gates dance!

I laughed my ass off when Data said "Perhaps we should proceed to the final lesson" as I considered that that was what he also probably said while learning the sex with Tasha.

[BillJ]

jpch wrote:

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i already said i am thankful for those things but you need to realize TNG had large amount of viewers because there was nothing competing with it on TV at that time.

Voyager and Ds9 were going against each other as well many other Scifi series in 1995 and later.

Damn... you're right. I forgot that from 1987-1994 there was only one TV station here in the States and folks were forced to watch TNG or nothing.

Many of the shows that you complain had to compete against each other got on the air because TNG proved that adult sci-fi was a marketable commodity. And as far as I know, DS9 and Voyager never had to compete head-to-head for viewers. One aired mostly on the weekends in syndication while the other was on a network (UPN), Wednesday nights at 8pm.

DS9 and Voyager simply didn't engage mainstream audiences the way TNG did. TNG didn't suffer a ratings decline while it and DS9 were on the air together.

[Josan]

I prefer VOY to TNG. Despite all of its flaws and missed potential I just find it more enjoyable, as a whole. With VOY, I only dislike a couple characters. With TNG, I only like a couple.

[exodus]

Many of the shows that you complain had to compete against each other got on the air because TNG proved that adult sci-fi was a marketable commodity. And as far as I know, DS9 and Voyager never had to compete head-to-head for viewers. One aired mostly on the weekends in syndication while the other was on a network (UPN), Wednesday nights at 8pm.

It did here in New York.
DS9 and Voy. ran at the same day and time for a few years.
Eventual they switched Voy. to a new night.

[jpch]

BillJ wrote:

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Damn... you're right. I forgot that from 1987-1994 there was only one TV station here in the States and folks were forced to watch TNG or nothing.

Many of the shows that you complain had to compete against each other got on the air because TNG proved that adult sci-fi was a marketable commodity. And as far as I know, DS9 and Voyager never had to compete head-to-head for viewers. One aired mostly on the weekends in syndication while the other was on a network (UPN), Wednesday nights at 8pm.

DS9 and Voyager simply didn't engage mainstream audiences the way TNG did. TNG didn't suffer a ratings decline while it and DS9 were on the air together.

i dunno if anyone recalls that the first 2 seasons of DS9 had horrible rating like really bad...also i meant that TNG had no competition as nothing interesting in the Scifi department ,while against Voyager and DS9 you had stuff like Andromeda,Stargate,Farscape...etc scifi also became more common after 1995,people would see 10 headed alien and will be like we already seen that, before that Science fiction was a lot more new

[Guy Gardener]

The first two seasons of DS9 were TNG lite.

The same format as Voyager for all season seasons.

DS9 didn't come into it's own till season three with the introduction of the Dominion.

Better story telling doesn't always equate to better ratings.

But it was clear they were trying something different which was either going to rechallenge the audience or alienate the audience.

[teacake]

jpch wrote:

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i dunno if anyone recalls that the first 2 seasons of DS9 had horrible rating like really bad...also i meant that TNG had no competition as nothing interesting in the Scifi department ,while against Voyager and DS9 you had stuff like Andromeda,Stargate,Farscape...etc scifi also became more common after 1995,people would see 10 headed alien and will be like we already seen that, before that Science fiction was a lot more new

Those people are shallow.

[MacLeod]

Perhaps if would have been better if VOY had started to air either after DSN finished or later during it's 6th or 7th year.

[Guy Gardener]

After the Dominion had annihilated the Maquis?

Good lord, none of the stories in Voyager would have worked without the Maquis constantly being edgy in the background!

[jpch]

MacLeod wrote:

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Perhaps if would have been better if VOY had started to air either after DSN finished or later during it's 6th or 7th year.

I myself never watched them when they aired,i was a baby.
but its always the case with competitive series.
I totally agree with what you said.

[teacake]

The only show I have ever watched AS IT HAPPENED since I became an adult is Dr. Who.

[Guy Gardener]

The older you get, not that you are certainly getting older, the less sure you'll be be that whenever you have declared adulthood, pitching a flag, that it's a sincere testament that shouldn't be conveniently annulled and moved to a less ludicrous point in history once you've wizened and matured a touch more than you had 5 or 10 years ago,not that I'm certain you can mature or wizen.

Didn't I besmirch a 20 year old you just a couple days ago?

[exodus]

MacLeod wrote:

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Perhaps if would have been better if VOY had started to air either after DSN finished or later during it's 6th or 7th year.

Yes, I might have but UPN wasn't going to wait.
That and even if it started after or later during, the over saturation had already begun.
I still think the outcome might have been the same.

[MacLeod]

^Possibly in the end, but waiting might have slowed down the saturation.

[teacake]

eh, when I was 20 I was an adult. A dumb adult, but an adult.