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Old December 16 2012, 11:23 PM   #1
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How Would Captain Kirk Handle a Mutiny?

I've always found it interesting that Captain Kirk never had to face a determined mutiny from his crew. Let me clarify that a little.
Yes, in many, many episodes of TOS, something happens to one of the bridge crew and they end up fighting Kirk. Same for many of the guest star roles.
But it's never their intent to attack Kirk. In every case I can think of, something (a disease, alien entity, etc.) influenced them to fight Kirk. I don't think anybody has ever tried a mutiny of their own free will.
How would Kirk react if someone, say Uhura or Sulu, conspired against him, and tried to commandeer the Enterprise?
Would he go down Admiral Adama's route during the Gaeta rebellion and swiftly execute them?
Or would he show clemency, and maybe even restore them to their posts?
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Old December 17 2012, 01:01 AM   #2
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Re: How Would Captain Kirk Handle a Mutiny?

First, he would dropkick said mutineer

Then put him in the Brig

Then he would chose a likely planet, and "Maroon" said mutineer

Job done
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Old December 17 2012, 01:17 AM   #3
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Re: How Would Captain Kirk Handle a Mutiny?

Didn't we pretty much see this in Star Trek V?
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Old December 17 2012, 01:25 AM   #4
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Re: How Would Captain Kirk Handle a Mutiny?

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I've always found it interesting that Captain Kirk never had to face a determined mutiny from his crew. Let me clarify that a little.
Yes, in many, many episodes of TOS, something happens to one of the bridge crew and they end up fighting Kirk. Same for many of the guest star roles.
But it's never their intent to attack Kirk. In every case I can think of, something (a disease, alien entity, etc.) influenced them to fight Kirk. I don't think anybody has ever tried a mutiny of their own free will.
How would Kirk react if someone, say Uhura or Sulu, conspired against him, and tried to commandeer the Enterprise?
Would he go down Admiral Adama's route during the Gaeta rebellion and swiftly execute them?
Or would he show clemency, and maybe even restore them to their posts?
Put them to the brig and then court martial perhaps?

Does nobody go to the military anymore?
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Old December 17 2012, 01:48 AM   #5
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Re: How Would Captain Kirk Handle a Mutiny?

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Didn't we pretty much see this in Star Trek V?
And in "This Side of Paradise".
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Old December 17 2012, 10:48 AM   #6
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Re: How Would Captain Kirk Handle a Mutiny?

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Didn't we pretty much see this in Star Trek V?
And in "This Side of Paradise".
No. They were affected by the spores..
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Old December 17 2012, 02:31 PM   #7
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In "Obsession", the top officers intend to topple Kirk if the skipper doesn't properly explain himself. There is no outside agent influencing these officers there. And Kirk doesn't appear all that worried about the inviolability of his status, but he doesn't feel obligated to explain himself, either.

I don't see Kirk acting out of spite even if his closest men or women decide to rise against him. There just isn't precedent for that. Kirk is more the "turning defeat into victory" type, gracefully yielding to being overthrown simply because this will give him time to plot his counterstrike. And he is always gracious in victory, even offering a helping hand to characters like Khan or Kruge. It takes a really vicious kind of villain to goad a "mercy shot" from Kirk, and I doubt the TOS officers would qualify. Unless they were indeed under the influence of some outside agent, that is, and this is outside the scope of this argument.

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Old December 17 2012, 02:55 PM   #8
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Re: How Would Captain Kirk Handle a Mutiny?

Kirk would follow regulations. How is this even in doubt? If the crew were acting in their right minds, without spores, Sybok or whatever, Kirk would quell the uprising and then lock them up (a court martial requires 3 command officers according to The Menagerie). He wouldn't kill them (Adama didn't have a military organization to turn them over to - he WAS the authority) or strand them on some planet (because that's just stupid). They would be turned over to Starfleet command at the nearest base for court martial.
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Old December 17 2012, 03:03 PM   #9
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Didn't we pretty much see this in Star Trek V?
And in "This Side of Paradise".
No. They were affected by the spores..
Kirk: This is mutiny, mister!
Leslie: Yes, sir. It is.

I rest my case.

Also, lets not forget about the Kirk-Lester temper tantrums and inflicting the death penalty for mutineers.
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Old December 17 2012, 05:45 PM   #10
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Re: How Would Captain Kirk Handle a Mutiny?

I believe he would have dramatic fist fights with the men. As for the women, I think we all know what Kirk would do with the women.
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Old December 17 2012, 08:02 PM   #11
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Re: How Would Captain Kirk Handle a Mutiny?

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I believe he would have dramatic fist fights with the men. As for the women, I think we all know what Kirk would do with the women.
I'm not sure if I know. Please explain it to me. Graphically.
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Old December 17 2012, 09:33 PM   #12
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Re: How Would Captain Kirk Handle a Mutiny?

Kamdan wrote: View Post
Nacluv wrote: View Post
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And in "This Side of Paradise".
No. They were affected by the spores..
Kirk: This is mutiny, mister!
Leslie: Yes, sir. It is.

I rest my case.

Also, lets not forget about the Kirk-Lester temper tantrums and inflicting the death penalty for mutineers.
What do you mean you rest your case? I don't get it. Leslie was infected.
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Old December 17 2012, 09:36 PM   #13
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Re: How Would Captain Kirk Handle a Mutiny?

The actions are still a mutiny.
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Old December 17 2012, 09:43 PM   #14
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Re: How Would Captain Kirk Handle a Mutiny?

Delta Vega wrote: View Post
First, he would dropkick said mutineer

Then put him in the Brig

Then he would chose a likely planet, and "Maroon" said mutineer

Job done
This.

Sidebar: Did Shatner ever again perform the dropkick in character after its real life failure? http://youtu.be/GgtPb4-ou1A
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Old December 17 2012, 10:39 PM   #15
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Re: How Would Captain Kirk Handle a Mutiny?

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The actions are still a mutiny.
A mutiny solvable (in that case only) by neutralizing the alien spores, not by jailing the officers and rounds of court martials.

The thread is asking about a mutiny that comes without any alien or strange outside influence.
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