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Old December 16 2012, 01:32 AM   #16
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Re: Who would win a fight between a Neanderthal and Human

Batman can beat Superman so long as he has enough time to prepare!
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Old December 16 2012, 02:24 AM   #17
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Too bad we didn't see Neanderthal Riker and Picard fight in Genesis!
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Old December 16 2012, 02:25 AM   #18
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Batman can beat Superman so long as he has enough time to prepare!
And a pocket full of kryptonite.
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Old December 16 2012, 02:30 AM   #19
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You mean a Kryptonite ring, right?
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Old December 16 2012, 02:40 AM   #20
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Too bad we didn't see Neanderthal Riker and Picard fight in Genesis!
Riker wasn't turned into a Neanderthal there. The claim was that he'd turned into an Australopithecus, a much, much earlier hominid -- which was one of the more ludicrous statements in the episode, since Australopithecines were dainty herbivores, not ferocious giants.
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Old December 16 2012, 10:20 AM   #21
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Actually research done on Neanderthal skulls do indicate they had larger cranial capacity than us Humans. That may not indicate superior intelligence but it is an important factor to consider. We should not underestimate their intelligence.

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Old December 16 2012, 11:23 AM   #22
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Well when humans and Neanderthals were around 50 000 years, we had other humanoid species like the

denisovan hominins



Homo floresiensis




And BTW the Chinese have discovered what could be possibly be another humanoid species called Red Deer Cave People. They are waiting for more evidence before they can classify it as a new species

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/red-...human-species/



I see a cage fight between the 5 humanoid species

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Old December 16 2012, 08:48 PM   #23
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Batman can beat Superman so long as he has enough time to prepare!
And a pocket full of kryptonite.
With a certain amount of green kryptonite, anybody could defeat Superman.
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Old December 16 2012, 08:51 PM   #24
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With a certain amount of green kryptonite, anybody could defeat Superman.
Except that every time someone tries using kryptonite to defeat Superman, they somehow manage to fail, unless it's an imaginary story or an alternate reality.
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Old December 17 2012, 11:55 PM   #25
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I love how a thread about Neanderthals turned into a thread about defeating Superman.
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Old December 18 2012, 01:17 AM   #26
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I guess no one is Spin Doctors fan.
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Re: Who would win a fight between a Neanderthal and Human

Thinking of Neanderthals as an entirely different species is mostly just a holdover from early theories that they were bestial hunch-backed brutes. They had speech, they took care of their old and injured, they probably had burial rites and thus some concept of religion, etc. etc. etc.

As far as a fight, it would probably just depend on the individuals but I would give the edge to the Neanderthal. They weren't notably shorter than their Sapiens cousins (a couple inches on average) and were considerably more robust.
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Old December 19 2012, 06:36 PM   #28
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I don't see how one can really say that "A Neanderthal will always beat a Homo Sapiens" or vice versa. There are far too many variables. Intelligence, coordination, reflexes, muscle mass and tone, bone structure, stamina, endurance, vision, and just general overall health of the individuals would all affect the course of a fight, and that doesn't even take fighting technique or skill with weapons/tools into account. Sure, skeletal analysis of Neanderthals has given us a lot of general information on their body structure, but I'm sure there was a good deal of variation in all of these categories from one Neanderthal to another, just as there is in Homo Sapiens.

Comparing Neanderthals to Homo Sapiens as they are today - as a general rule, most of us aren't really used to fighting since it isn't a part of most of our lives. Most of us lead rather sedentary lives and we don't really have any experience at having to hunt and kill our own food. On the other hand, people sich as boxers and other athletes, and especially people with military training, could almost certainly take a Neanderthal in even unarmed combat, unless there were some other random factor stacking the deck in the Neanderthal's favor.

If you were to pit a Neanderthal against a Homo Sapiens as they were at the time that Neanderthals were still around, I imagine that some times the fight would go one way, and other times another. Each seems to have certain adevantages and disadvantages so I imagine that overall differences in individuals would still play an important, but unquantifiable, factor.
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Old December 19 2012, 06:40 PM   #29
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I don't see how one can really say that "A Neanderthal will always beat a Homo Sapiens" or vice versa. There are far too many variables. Intelligence, coordination, reflexes, muscle mass and tone, bone structure, stamina, endurance, vision, and just general overall health of the individuals would all affect the course of a fight, and that doesn't even take fighting technique or skill with weapons/tools into account.
Right. We need to ask some key questions, like: Is the human combatant Batman?
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Old December 19 2012, 06:52 PM   #30
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With a certain amount of green kryptonite, anybody could defeat Superman.
Except that every time someone tries using kryptonite to defeat Superman, they somehow manage to fail, unless it's an imaginary story or an alternate reality.
Aren't all the stories imaginary?

By the way, Capt. Kirk beat up a dinosaur guy. A caveman should be no problem.
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