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Old December 24 2012, 03:46 PM   #406
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There are no American forces in Iraq! What you see is an illussion I tell you! We are slaughtering them everywhere. They are killing themselves with shovels.

Yeah, seen that one.
And you wonder why nobody ever takes your arguments seriously.
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Old December 24 2012, 04:03 PM   #407
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an argument between one side wanting to ban guns as an answer to events like this, and people pointing out that mental illness and society are the driving factors
In wanting to own a gun? I agree.
I'm starting to think that the irrational fear of the gun banners is a clear sign of mental illness...
This is like you saying Trevon Martin had an irrational fear of being shot when he attacked Zimmerman..right before he was shot by Zimmerman.

It's not irrational to fear something that happens to people. It IS irrational to think you gun is going to do anything to protect you from the government.

Meanwhile, two firefighters have JUST been shot to death while responding to a housefire in Webster, NY. Should we arm them to?

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I mean, being afraid of something simply because it's "black and scary"?
Also, it can kill someone.
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Old December 24 2012, 04:20 PM   #408
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I'm starting to think that the irrational fear of the gun banners is a clear sign of mental illness...

I mean, being afraid of something simply because it's "black and scary"? Justifying its banning because it will come after your children? What does that sound like?
A pathetic attempt at comparing guns to black people in order to paint those proposing gun control measures as racists (not to mention mentally ill), something which you and gturner have both done now because your regular arguments fall flat and you have to distract attention from the subject matter however you can by provoking a response to your outrageous comments.

Infraction for trolling. Comments to PM.
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Old December 24 2012, 05:09 PM   #409
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In wanting to own a gun? I agree.
I'm starting to think that the irrational fear of the gun banners is a clear sign of mental illness...
This is like you saying Trevon Martin had an irrational fear of being shot when he attacked Zimmerman..right before he was shot by Zimmerman.

It's not irrational to fear something that happens to people. It IS irrational to think you gun is going to do anything to protect you from the government.

Meanwhile, two firefighters have JUST been shot to death while responding to a housefire in Webster, NY. Should we arm them to?

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I mean, being afraid of something simply because it's "black and scary"?
Also, it can kill someone.
Aren't the other two fire fighters in intensive care?

Meanwhile the report I heard on the radio is that due to the police looking for the shooter, the fire continues to burn rather than being fought by the brave firefighters.
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Old December 24 2012, 05:46 PM   #410
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^Which might be the point of the shootings in the first place -- to make sure the place burns down.
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Old December 24 2012, 06:54 PM   #411
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^Which might be the point of the shootings in the first place -- to make sure the place burns down.
I heard on the radio that the police are now saying the fireman were specifically targeted.
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Old December 24 2012, 07:16 PM   #412
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Hey, here's something to lighten the mood for the holidays:

How many NRA members does it take to screw in a light bulb?

More guns!
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Old December 24 2012, 08:25 PM   #413
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*Sighs* This is getting us nowhere. I already posted what I'm thinking about today in TNZ. The scores of presents unopened. The families looking at the holes where their loved ones should be. Gun control or no, improving mental illness treatment, school security... that doesn't matter to me at the moment. Watching my nieces open their presents will be bittersweet.
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Old December 25 2012, 12:20 AM   #414
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^Which might be the point of the shootings in the first place -- to make sure the place burns down.
I heard on the radio that the police are now saying the fireman were specifically targeted.
So, it turned out that it was a known criminal, William Spengler age 62, who had served 17 years in jail for killing his 80 year old grandmother back in 1980. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2360280.html
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Old December 26 2012, 01:07 AM   #415
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I mean, being afraid of something simply because it's "black and scary"? Justifying its banning because it will come after your children? What does that sound like?
Darth Vader?
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Old December 26 2012, 03:51 PM   #416
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Does paranoia count as mental illness?

I saw my cousin yesterday for Xmas. Apparently, she's going off the deep end with this fiscal cliff, bad economy, tightening of the middle class, etc. and is convinced her home will be targeted when the 'class warfare' breaks out, as they have money and the husband is away all week.

She's talking a loaded weapon with a 30 shot clip in just about every room. Not locked away, not keeping the bullets separate from the guns, and debating not keeping the safety on. Her though is optimize response time if soemeone breaks in.

She also has 3 young kids who will be bound to find them when they are snooping around to see what Santa or the Easter bunny will bring. There's just so much that can go wrong. I can totally imagine junior finding it, showing it off to his friends after school one day, and them fooling around with it just right and someone gets shot.

This doesn't address mass murdering crazies, but it's on topic. A lot of gun related injuries/death could be avoided by a little responsibility and safety.
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Old December 26 2012, 04:03 PM   #417
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It's recognized as a mental disorder alright.

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She's talking a loaded weapon with a 30 shot clip in just about every room. Not locked away, not keeping the bullets separate from the guns, and debating not keeping the safety on. Her though is optimize response time if soemeone breaks in.

She also has 3 young kids who will be bound to find them when they are snooping around to see what Santa or the Easter bunny will bring. There's just so much that can go wrong. I can totally imagine junior finding it, showing it off to his friends after school one day, and them fooling around with it just right and someone gets shot.
No offense, but sometimes the evil twisted bad guy inside me wishes that those people get shot by intruders with their own guns that were not locked away.
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Old December 26 2012, 05:32 PM   #418
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Does paranoia count as mental illness?

I saw my cousin yesterday for Xmas. Apparently, she's going off the deep end with this fiscal cliff, bad economy, tightening of the middle class, etc. and is convinced her home will be targeted when the 'class warfare' breaks out, as they have money and the husband is away all week.

She's talking a loaded weapon with a 30 shot clip in just about every room. Not locked away, not keeping the bullets separate from the guns, and debating not keeping the safety on. Her though is optimize response time if soemeone breaks in.

She also has 3 young kids who will be bound to find them when they are snooping around to see what Santa or the Easter bunny will bring. There's just so much that can go wrong. I can totally imagine junior finding it, showing it off to his friends after school one day, and them fooling around with it just right and someone gets shot.

This doesn't address mass murdering crazies, but it's on topic. A lot of gun related injuries/death could be avoided by a little responsibility and safety.
If you are at all serious about this you need to contact Social Services.
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Old December 26 2012, 07:17 PM   #419
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My aunt is a crazy tea party wingnut and bought guns because of the "shaira law" and Muslims taking over the country. I just hope none of her grandkids or step grandkids ever get a hold of them...
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Old December 26 2012, 07:32 PM   #420
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My sympathies. I've known a couple of people who keep guns because they too believe that Big Gubmint Socialists and New World Order types will one day come to strip them of their liberties. It's ridiculous.

We live in one of the most stable and arguably the most successful democracy in all of human history and yet we have a delusional subculture who thinks police or soldiers are going to smash down their doors and confiscate their means of defending themselves as part of some sinister plot to shred the Constitution. Some are misguided and misinformed. Others aren't exactly right in the head. Still others are just plain stupid and probably shouldn't be trusted with the instructions on a shirt.
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