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Old December 14 2012, 09:50 PM   #31
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Neither film is great -- the first is a fascinating failure, the second better, but not great. The best part of both films was Jeff Bridges, who, unless the writers jump through some serious hoops, won't be back for a third installment. That leaves me a little worried about the fate of part three, but I'm in wait-and-see mode.


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Old December 14 2012, 11:14 PM   #32
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Director Joseph Kosinski discusses "Tron 3".

http://collider.com/tron-3-tron-lega...sinski/217942/
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Old December 14 2012, 11:19 PM   #33
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So what is going on with Uprising? I moved recently so I have not been following its scheduling. Last time I saw a new episode must of been in the summer and there were reruns the next few weeks after that.
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Old December 15 2012, 12:05 AM   #34
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^^ But the potential is there... I think that was Flynn's ultimate intent (bridging the gap between the digital divide, as it were... I think his vision was to have a Grid that allowed users the ultimate interface. Back when the original came out, a lot of computer users were writers... My friends who had Apple IIs and Commadors wrote programs, exactly like the characters in Tron did... Had Flynn not been trapped inside his own creation, I think his goal would have been realized and we, the people of today, wouldn't be "surface users," or just using the programs created by a handful of programmers.
I don't think the writers of the original film were concerned with anything like that. It was more about programmers getting to retain ownership/credit/control of their own work rather than having it co-opted by the corporate regime. It was more of a labor-vs.-management thing than anything to do with the modern open-source movement. If the younger Flynn in Legacy had really been acting on behalf of his father's values, he wouldn't have pirated the company's software and let everyone have it for free so the company lost money; he would've ensured that the individual programmers who worked for the company were the ones who got the profits when the software was sold. The aggressively capitalist, profit-oriented Flynn of the original movie would've been horrified by his son's act of computer piracy.


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So what is going on with Uprising? I moved recently so I have not been following its scheduling. Last time I saw a new episode must of been in the summer and there were reruns the next few weeks after that.
There was a run of new episodes last month or thereabouts, and apparently Disney XD is burning off the rest of the episodes at midnight on Sunday nights (i.e. Monday mornings). I didn't notice the schedule change since I watch it via On Demand (which shows it letterboxed, commercial-free, and without those humongous animated promos blocking my view).
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Old December 15 2012, 12:17 AM   #35
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The aggressively capitalist, profit-oriented Flynn of the original movie would've been horrified by his son's act of computer piracy.
Piracy? Hm, probably, yes, but...

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shareholder is? [points at self]
Sam was basically claiming ownership over the software, though I guess it isn't really that simple.
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Old December 15 2012, 12:23 AM   #36
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Another big problem with Legacy was most of the best ideas of the original were ignored. That the Grid was mirror of our world. Not a copy. That the programs were representations of their human users. There is great potential for using the Grid as a metaphor for our very fast progressing technological real world.
Well, to be technical, it's not even the same Grid. The one in the original was a world inside every computer. The Legacy version was a private self-enclosed Grid created by Flynn alone. Which might explain the stylistic differences.
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Old December 15 2012, 12:24 AM   #37
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The aggressively capitalist, profit-oriented Flynn of the original movie would've been horrified by his son's act of computer piracy.
Piracy? Hm, probably, yes, but...

Sam Flynn wrote:
Your boss works for the CEO and the CEO works for the shareholders. Do you know who the biggest
shareholder is? [points at self]
Sam was basically claiming ownership over the software, though I guess it isn't really that simple.

The point is, Sam made a bootleg of the software available on the Web, costing the company money. Kevin Flynn in the original was motivated purely by monetary profit. Sure, when he was inside the Grid, he was fighting to free the Programs from the MCP, but only so that their programmers in the real world, like Alan and Lora and himself, would be able to retain control of their own creations and not be robbed of the profits for their work. Kevin's happy ending in the original was that he ended up ultra-rich, controlling the company, and flying around in his own helicopter. He wasn't out for some grand altruistic ideal. He wanted to get rich himself rather than seeing Dillinger get rich off of his work.
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Old December 15 2012, 01:37 AM   #38
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So what is going on with Uprising? I moved recently so I have not been following its scheduling. Last time I saw a new episode must of been in the summer and there were reruns the next few weeks after that.
I missed several episodes even though I have my DVR set to record all new episodes of Uprising but for some reason they never were recorded. I'm not sure why. Now I need to make sure I record it episode by episode now. I'm guessing DirectTV screwed me over somehow. Sundays at midnight...The show must be doing poorly in the ratings.
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Old December 15 2012, 01:57 AM   #39
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So what is going on with Uprising? I moved recently so I have not been following its scheduling. Last time I saw a new episode must of been in the summer and there were reruns the next few weeks after that.
I missed several episodes even though I have my DVR set to record all new episodes of Uprising but for some reason they never were recorded. I'm not sure why. Now I need to make sure I record it episode by episode now. I'm guessing DirectTV screwed me over somehow. Sundays at midnight...The show must be doing poorly in the ratings.
By Disney's unrealistic standards (probably based on the live action stuff on XD), yes. It doesn't help that they've never managed to consistently advertise the show and keep it in a time slot, which really hurts the chances of it getting a sustainable audience.
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Old December 15 2012, 02:44 AM   #40
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I will probably wait to watch Uprising when it comes out on DVD/Blu Ray. Its been so long I have to rewatch the early episodes to get into the new ones.
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Old December 15 2012, 04:20 AM   #41
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I'm quickly getting bored with Uprising, it's just the same thing every episode, 2 dimensional bad guy tries to catch Beck and fails... it doesn't feel like a full world with well developed characters.
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Old December 15 2012, 04:29 AM   #42
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I was lukewarm on Uprising at first, but it's gotten more engaging over time. It's definitely not the same thing every episode.
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Old December 15 2012, 08:43 AM   #43
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They finally did something with Beck's boss that actually made him a little more interesting.

I thought that Legacy was pretty good.It could've been better but it was solid entertainment. Looking forward to Tron 3.
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Old December 15 2012, 03:21 PM   #44
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Is it confirmed that Daft Punk is doing the soundtrack for T3?
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Old December 15 2012, 06:09 PM   #45
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So simple really for Flynn to come back. I always assumed he made a backup copy of himself in case of emergency. The backup would only be a program, not a user. So, no user powers. But, it would have all of Flynn's knowledge. If Clu ever grabbed him, how would he be able to continue to guide Quorra, right? I fully expect something like this.
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