My "Just Saw Insurrection For the First Time" Review.

Dale Sams · January 7 2013, 02:45 AM

Ahh yes, I'm greatly reminded of that time Admiral Nimitz, right in the middle of World War II, mutinied in protest of the forced relocation of a Japanese-American fishing village.

...and then fought the Prime Minister of Canada in hand to hand combat.

BillJ · January 7 2013, 02:54 AM

When they did the DVD commentary of this movie, it should've been two hours of Frakes, Berman and Piller simply muttering "I'm sorry".

sonak · January 7 2013, 03:20 AM

BillJ wrote:

When they did the DVD commentary of this movie, it should've been two hours of Frakes, Berman and Piller simply muttering "I'm sorry".

I disagree that Frakes has anything to apologize for with this movie as far as direction. He did fine with his job, this movie's problem was the poorly thought-out story. Piller owed an apology for this movie, not Frakes.

BillJ · January 7 2013, 03:25 AM

sonak wrote:

BillJ wrote:

When they did the DVD commentary of this movie, it should've been two hours of Frakes, Berman and Piller simply muttering "I'm sorry".

I disagree that Frakes has anything to apologize for with this movie as far as direction. He did fine with his job, this movie's problem was the poorly thought-out story. Piller owed an apology for this movie, not Frakes.

He was the director. If he saw things that didn't work then he had to have the balls to demand changes to the script.

His job wasn't to be Berman's 'yes man'.

Hartzilla2007 · January 7 2013, 03:55 AM

sonak wrote:

BillJ wrote:

When they did the DVD commentary of this movie, it should've been two hours of Frakes, Berman and Piller simply muttering "I'm sorry".

I disagree that Frakes has anything to apologize for with this movie as far as direction. He did fine with his job, this movie's problem was the poorly thought-out story. Piller owed an apology for this movie, not Frakes.

I'd rather blame whoever scraped the original idea. That might have actually been good.

spaceballone · January 7 2013, 05:31 AM

BillJ wrote:

sonak wrote:

BillJ wrote:

When they did the DVD commentary of this movie, it should've been two hours of Frakes, Berman and Piller simply muttering "I'm sorry".

I disagree that Frakes has anything to apologize for with this movie as far as direction. He did fine with his job, this movie's problem was the poorly thought-out story. Piller owed an apology for this movie, not Frakes.

He was the director. If he saw things that didn't work then he had to have the balls to demand changes to the script.

His job wasn't to be Berman's 'yes man'.

Frakes job was to shoot the script he was given and that's what he did. He was not involved in the story development or scripting at all. He did not have the power to overide Berman on anything major or request any major re-writes.

Dream · January 7 2013, 06:12 AM

BillJ wrote:

When they did the DVD commentary of this movie, it should've been two hours of Frakes, Berman and Piller simply muttering "I'm sorry".

Braga and Moore already did that in the Generations commentary.

J. Allen · January 7 2013, 06:37 AM

The Insurrection commentary, with Frakes and Sirtis, is hilarious. I want them to do all of the TNG movie commentaries now.

Argus Skyhawk · January 7 2013, 07:41 AM

J. Allen wrote:

The Insurrection commentary, with Frakes and Sirtis, is hilarious. I want them to do all of the TNG movie commentaries now.

I agree. He was the director, yet Frakes was helping Sirtis give the movie a great MST3K treatment. ("Oh no, he's going to sing? Whose idea was that?")

Dale Sams · January 7 2013, 07:58 AM

Argus Skyhawk wrote:

J. Allen wrote:

The Insurrection commentary, with Frakes and Sirtis, is hilarious. I want them to do all of the TNG movie commentaries now.

I agree. He was the director, yet Frakes was helping Sirtis give the movie a great MST3K treatment. ("Oh no, he's going to sing? Whose idea was that?")

I'm sure huge portions of the community groaned, but I actually loled at "Mr. Worf, sing" and that look on Worf's face when he shakes his head...and I laughed at Data shaking his head at Riker's assessment as to the closeness of his shave.

Mage · January 7 2013, 09:29 AM

BillJ wrote:

sonak wrote:

BillJ wrote:

When they did the DVD commentary of this movie, it should've been two hours of Frakes, Berman and Piller simply muttering "I'm sorry".

I disagree that Frakes has anything to apologize for with this movie as far as direction. He did fine with his job, this movie's problem was the poorly thought-out story. Piller owed an apology for this movie, not Frakes.

He was the director. If he saw things that didn't work then he had to have the balls to demand changes to the script.

His job wasn't to be Berman's 'yes man'.

That's not how it works I'm afraid. Even though we always want to blame the director, in the end it's the producers who call the shots.

lurok · January 7 2013, 04:15 PM

J. Allen wrote:

The Insurrection commentary, with Frakes and Sirtis, is hilarious. I want them to do all of the TNG movie commentaries now.

They are hilarious, indeed. I've always said it's the only way to watch the movie and have it be bearable. Frakes and Sirtis clearly don't take it seriously.

Lance · January 7 2013, 04:28 PM

I still say the problem is that Frakes shaved off his beard. Remember that he did this in pre-production, and for the first part of the film he's actually wearing a fake beard. Completely jinxed the entire movie IMO.

Robert Maxwell · January 7 2013, 04:41 PM

Lance wrote:

I still say the problem is that Frakes shaved off his beard. Remember that he did this in pre-production, and for the first part of the film he's actually wearing a fake beard. Completely jinxed the entire movie IMO.

I never knew that. I couldn't actually tell. Then again, I would hardly call myself a connoisseur of imitation pogonics.

backstept · January 7 2013, 05:11 PM

In the shaving scene it was obvious that he was already clean shaven and they were just wiping the foam off his face.

January 7 2013, 02:45 AM	#1
Dale Sams Captain	My "Just Saw Insurrection For the First Time" Review. Ahh yes, I'm greatly reminded of that time Admiral Nimitz, right in the middle of World War II, mutinied in protest of the forced relocation of a Japanese-American fishing village. ...and then fought the Prime Minister of Canada in hand to hand combat.

January 7 2013, 02:54 AM	#2
BillJ Vice Admiral Location: Greater Cincinnati	Re: My "Just Saw Insurrection For the First Time" Review. When they did the DVD commentary of this movie, it should've been two hours of Frakes, Berman and Piller simply muttering "I'm sorry". __________________ Boobies are evil!!!

January 7 2013, 06:37 AM	#8
J. Allen Probably Satan™ Location: A Quantum State	Re: My "Just Saw Insurrection For the First Time" Review. The Insurrection commentary, with Frakes and Sirtis, is hilarious. I want them to do all of the TNG movie commentaries now. __________________ “In all of the time forward, and backward, throughout the universe, we have all been alive and dead, and all at the same time.”

January 7 2013, 04:28 PM	#13
Lance Captain Location: The Enterprise's Restroom	Re: My "Just Saw Insurrection For the First Time" Review. I still say the problem is that Frakes shaved off his beard. Remember that he did this in pre-production, and for the first part of the film he's actually wearing a fake beard. Completely jinxed the entire movie IMO.

January 7 2013, 05:11 PM	#15
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