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Old December 12 2012, 08:20 PM   #1
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Cumberbatch talks John Harrison [spoilers]

Let the speculation continue

Cumberbatch:
"He's a terrorist; he operates as a terrorist," said the British actor. "He has extraordinary physical powers, but also mental powers. He can sow an idea, which is as powerful as gunshots or close-hand combat, which he's masterful in. He tears into the fabric of both the world and the Enterprise family, and he leaves behind him a trail of devastation. It's quite exciting to watch."

"Giving away the full motivation would ruin it," he said, "but it's personal. It's also political, I think. He's somebody who, at some point in the film, you should feel a certain amount of empathy towards his cause, if not his means. ... There's no two-dimensional obstacle he presents purely and simply by the fact that he's opposing our hero."
"He has an interesting relationship with Kirk, and with Spock in a way," teased Cumberbatch. "He very much plays them off against each other. There's an element of shadow to him and Kirk."
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Old December 12 2012, 08:24 PM   #2
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Re: Cumberbatch talks John Harrison [spoilers]

It's not Sybok.

Though I so want it to be The Final Frontier reboot.
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Old December 12 2012, 08:28 PM   #3
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Mental powers, huh? Well, that rules Khan out.
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Old December 12 2012, 08:34 PM   #4
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Mental powers, huh? Based on Ms. Marcus' scream, am wondering if she will be seduced by the dark side of the force, so lil Marcus might not be Kirk's in this reality.
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Old December 12 2012, 08:34 PM   #5
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Old December 12 2012, 08:36 PM   #6
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Mental powers, huh? Well, that rules Khan out.
Mental powers can also mean superior intellect. You know, the kind that Kirk laughs at.
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Old December 12 2012, 08:37 PM   #7
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Mental powers, huh? Well, that rules Khan out.
Maybe. Mental powers could just mean great intellect. "He can sow an idea" could be metaphorical for a great power of persuasion, not the actual abililty to control another person's mind. Just sayin'. Of course, anyone who knows for sure ain't talkin'.

Edited to add: Beat me to the thought by one minute Santa Kang.
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Old December 12 2012, 08:42 PM   #8
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Re: Cumberbatch talks John Harrison [spoilers]

It looks like even though we learn new things every day, it's not enough for any villain candidate to be ruled out by fans.
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Old December 12 2012, 08:43 PM   #9
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Mental powers, huh? Well, that rules Khan out.
Mental powers can also mean superior intellect. You know, the kind that Kirk laughs at.
Yeah. I was going to edit my post and add "unless he means mental powers in a metaphorical way." but you beat me to it.
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Old December 12 2012, 09:10 PM   #10
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SalvorHardin wrote: View Post
It looks like even though we learn new things every day, it's not enough for any villain candidate to be ruled out by fans.
It's not (choose one):
A. Khan
B. Gary Mitchell
C. Gary Seven
D. Jean-Luc Picard
E. Trelane
F. George Samuel "Johnny" Kirk
G. Arne Darvin
H. Cyrano Jones
I. Kevin Riley
J. Kang
K. Kor
L. Koloth
M. Korax
N. a tribble
O. Nilz Baris
P. Gorgan
Q. Q
R. Soran
S. Henoch
T. Kollos
U. Janice Lester
V. Captain Garrovick
W. Ben Finney
X. Finnegan
Y. Rose
Z. Boothby
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Old December 12 2012, 09:48 PM   #11
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M'Sharak wrote: View Post
SalvorHardin wrote: View Post
It looks like even though we learn new things every day, it's not enough for any villain candidate to be ruled out by fans.
It's not (choose one):
A. Khan
B. Gary Mitchell
C. Gary Seven
D. Jean-Luc Picard
E. Trelane
F. George Samuel "Johnny" Kirk
G. Arne Darvin
H. Cyrano Jones
I. Kevin Riley
J. Kang
K. Kor
L. Koloth
M. Korax
N. a tribble
O. Nilz Baris
P. Gorgan
Q. Q
R. Soran
S. Henoch
T. Kollos
U. Janice Lester
V. Captain Garrovick
W. Ben Finney
X. Finnegan
Y. Rose
Z. Boothby
Then, by the fact he's not on this list, it must be…LAZARUS!!!!

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Old December 12 2012, 09:59 PM   #12
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It looks like even though we learn new things every day, it's not enough for any villain candidate to be ruled out by fans.
It's not (choose one):
U. Janice Lester
Are you sure? Cuz I got money ridin' on this!
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Old December 12 2012, 10:00 PM   #13
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All your Pike is belong to us!

Perhaps...

Pike's mission to Talos IV never occurred. What if a mission led by Harrison went instead, and he did learn the mental powers of the Talosians...
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Old December 12 2012, 10:08 PM   #14
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M'Sharak wrote: View Post
It's not (choose one):
A. Khan
B. Gary Mitchell
C. Gary Seven
D. Jean-Luc Picard
E. Trelane
F. George Samuel "Johnny" Kirk
G. Arne Darvin
H. Cyrano Jones
I. Kevin Riley
J. Kang
K. Kor
L. Koloth
M. Korax
N. a tribble
O. Nilz Baris
P. Gorgan
Q. Q
R. Soran
S. Henoch
T. Kollos
U. Janice Lester
V. Captain Garrovick
W. Ben Finney
X. Finnegan
Y. Rose
Z. Boothby
That settles it.






It's the Pakleds.
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Old December 12 2012, 10:13 PM   #15
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Mental powers, huh? Well, that rules Khan out.
Not in the least, because Cumberbatch elaborates to indicate that he's not talking about literal "powers" like mind control or telekinesis. Khan in "Space Seed" was clearly as accustomed to leading by persuasion and/or seduction of one kind or another as by intimidation or force.

In fact, Cumberbatch's description of the villain leaves some version of Khan as a possibility and rules Mitchell out.
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