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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Who is John Harrison?
A new character named John Harrison 26 23.64%
A new character with the psuedonym John Harrison 16 14.55%
Khan 19 17.27%
Gary Mitchell 19 17.27%
Harry Mudd 3 2.73%
Nero 0 0%
Trelane 1 0.91%
Other (Please Explain) 26 23.64%
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Old December 23 2012, 04:18 PM   #151
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I think John Harrison is an Android. Maybe Section 31 created a bunch of Android Super Soldiers, realized they became uncontrollable and started deactivating them. John escaped and is back for revenge. That's why he has super human powers.

Of course, Kirk and Spock end up defeating him by confusing him with these great lines: "Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad."
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Old December 23 2012, 04:32 PM   #152
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I remenber one episode of the third season Next Generation, The Hunted. military prisoner escapes. A genetically modified ex-soldier.
He is able to evade the security teams easily in Enterprise.

So I think Harrison is a sort of James Bon of the future.
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Old December 23 2012, 07:22 PM   #153
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Personally, I think John Harrison is the new version of the Dos Equis Man from the original timeline
"I don't always detonate the fleet, but when I do... "
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Old December 23 2012, 07:52 PM   #154
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MarsWeeps wrote: View Post
I think John Harrison is an Android.
I actually thought of that one, and felt it was reasonable to explain his strength and his ability to jump from great distances. I think that no matter if you're genetically engineered or not, that doesn't allow you to do such things with great ease. There are still limits to the human frame.

However, I don't expect the writers of this movie to really take that into effect. They're not going to care if it makes sense or not because all that really matters is if the audience at large will buy it (they probably will).

There's probably lots of reasons against him being an android though. Like being in Starfleet, not being the typical portrayal of the android who doesn't quite understand humanity, etc. I could see it being that this would be the type of secret that they want to cover up and not reveal, but at the same time it wouldn't make sense that an android could make it through Starfleet without being found out. Then again, refer to my above paragraph.
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Old December 23 2012, 08:03 PM   #155
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An image of someone in the brig in TOS is persuasive of not a damn thing - it was a common shot on the show.

Evidence that Harrison is Charlie Evans:

http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...rliexhd475.jpg

Evidence that Harrison is Evil Kirk:

http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...-Trekpulse.jpg

That's leaving aside the nonsensical notion that in doing a film version of some TOS adversary Abrams would set up shots to resemble those on a fifty year-old TV episode and that the studio would choose one as the first production still to be released.

It's not Gary Mitchell, Charlie Evans, Harry Mudd, Garth of Izar, Gary 7 or Evil Kirk. Get over it and get on with it.
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Old December 23 2012, 08:10 PM   #156
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My Name Is Legion wrote: View Post
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It's not Gary Mitchell,


Charlie Evans,
Harry Mudd,
Garth of Izar,
Gary 7
or Evil Kirk.
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Old December 23 2012, 08:32 PM   #157
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I had forgotten that!
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Old December 23 2012, 08:35 PM   #158
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So much humour wasted on the unappreciative

I was spitting cracker crumbs.
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Old December 23 2012, 10:53 PM   #159
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Ok I get virtually everything inside joke or reference on here. That I do not get!
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Old December 23 2012, 10:58 PM   #160
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^Me either. We're not old timer enough for that one.

Wild guess - M'Sharak was 'raising his hand, (paw') in agreement with Legion on all points?

BTW, despite all the 'evidence', it's not Khan either. NuKirk, Nuspock, NuMcCoy, etc., NuVillain.
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Old December 23 2012, 10:59 PM   #161
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Now there's something I haven't seen in ages.

And I'm not talking about Garak's disturbingly tight Tom Cruise Underoos.
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Old December 23 2012, 11:03 PM   #162
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I vaguely remember it but is there a reason the last one is cut off?
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Old December 24 2012, 04:25 AM   #163
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I think John Harrison is an Android.
it wouldn't make sense that an android could make it through Starfleet without being found out.
It happened once in TOS. Norman the android from the episode "I, Mudd" somehow made it aboard the Enterprise as a red shirt and took over the ship.
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Old December 24 2012, 04:31 AM   #164
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MarsWeeps wrote: View Post
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I think John Harrison is an Android.
it wouldn't make sense that an android could make it through Starfleet without being found out.
It happened once in TOS. Norman the android from the episode "I, Mudd" somehow made it aboard the Enterprise as a red shirt and took over the ship.

That's not the same as saying that it makes sense or belongs in a movie script.

It's Khan.

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Old December 24 2012, 04:55 AM   #165
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MarsWeeps wrote: View Post
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I think John Harrison is an Android.
it wouldn't make sense that an android could make it through Starfleet without being found out.
It happened once in TOS. Norman the android from the episode "I, Mudd" somehow made it aboard the Enterprise as a red shirt and took over the ship.
There is no reason to believe that Norman was a member of Starfleet, but instead just someone who snuck on the ship wearing a uniform. Norman was impersonating being a member of Starfleet. Abrams has very much implied that John Harrison is in fact a member of Starfleet, and comes from Starfleet. John Harrison is NOT impersonating being a member of Starfleet.

Quote from JJ Abrams about John Harrison:
His name is John Harrison and he is sort of an average – that is what makes him so scary – he is just an average guy who works in an organization called Starfleet, and he turns against the group because he has got this back-story and this kind of amazing secret agenda.
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