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Old December 11 2012, 06:35 AM   #1
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New Info! (Bad Robot press event/villain ID'd, etc.) *SPOILERS*

Trekmovie has been to Bad Robot HQ and has brought back some goodies!
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Old December 11 2012, 06:45 AM   #2
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Re: New Info! *SPOILERS*

So Cumberbatch really is John Harrison. There goes my hope that he was Gary Mitchell Garth of Izar Kahn Noonian Singh Cryogenically Frozen Sherlock. My childhood weeps JJ.

But seriously, with all of the info out there now, I'm pleasantly surprised how little I know about the plot.
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Old December 11 2012, 06:47 AM   #3
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Re: New Info! *SPOILERS*

One of the reasons fans are scratching their heads is because producer/co-writer Roberto Orci had previously stated that Cumberbatch was playing a character from Star Trek’s canon. Clearly ‘John Harrison’ is not from Trek’s canon. Tune in tomorrow to find out what both Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci had to say about this discrepancy.
I can't wait to see how they wiggle out of that "canon character" statement from July 2012.
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Old December 11 2012, 06:47 AM   #4
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Re: New Info! *SPOILERS*

Technically, "John Harrison" is a canon character.
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Old December 11 2012, 06:54 AM   #5
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Re: New Info! *SPOILERS*

I've been a Trek fan for 40 years and have never even noticed a guy named Harrison in TOS. If he's meant to be that same obscure to the max character than Orci's comment was quite assholish. Of course they could be pulling a Miranda Tate thing here (see The Dark Knight Rises) and tricking us with the Harrison reveal. Eh, whatever...no big deal. As long as the bad guy's cool I don't care who it is.
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Old December 11 2012, 06:55 AM   #6
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Re: New Info! *SPOILERS*

The idea of John Harrison being a pseudonym hasn't been disproven by this article. All it says is that he's called John Harrison in the movie. Liam Neeson was called Ducard in Batman Begins. The point of having a pseudonym is for people to call you the wrong name to hide your identity. I'm not saying that the character isn't just actually named John Harrison, but the wording of the article proves nothing.
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Old December 11 2012, 06:57 AM   #7
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Isn't John Harrison one of the least intimidating villain names...ever?
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Old December 11 2012, 07:05 AM   #8
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Him REALLY being some new character explains a lot. Miranda Tate and Henri Ducard were announced as their characters names far in advanced as a deception.

This has been held back because how do you make an big deal over a new character without revealing the plot. So they have held on to this as long as possible.
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Old December 11 2012, 07:09 AM   #9
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I liked all of those 8 spoilers from that article. I really don't care about the characters name, even though it is not an intimidating name, and I am happy that Eve is playing Carol Marcus.
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Old December 11 2012, 07:13 AM   #10
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Re: New Info! *SPOILERS*

Enterprise is Great wrote: View Post
I've been a Trek fan for 40 years and have never even noticed a guy named Harrison in TOS.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Harrison

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Ha...8Lieutenant%29
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Old December 11 2012, 07:20 AM   #11
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Re: New Info! *SPOILERS*

I'm glad we're seeing Qo'noS again for the first time in close to a decade. I wouldn't have minded some smooth-headed Klingons making an appearance just to connect to the 22nd Century viral mutation that cosmetically changed most of their race, but for all we know the Empire found a cure for the condition earlier in this timeline than it did in the Prime one.

I just hope the Klingons are creepy and vicious looking this time around. As much as I love Klingons the whole "pissed off Harley biker gang dude with heavy metal hair" thing stopped being intimidating and thrilling a long time ago. The Klingons in ST:TMP had a very menacing, almost vampire or gargoyle-like appearance with their more pronounced teeth and canines and the red mood lighting being shone on the bridges of the battle cruisers at the start of the film.
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Old December 11 2012, 07:21 AM   #12
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I've been a Trek fan for 40 years and have never even noticed a guy named Harrison in TOS.
Yep, he was played by Robert Veto and appeared in 27 episodes during seasons 1 and 2, even appearing in Space Seed.
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Old December 11 2012, 07:22 AM   #13
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And even Keenser is back.
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Old December 11 2012, 07:23 AM   #14
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I'm so jazzed. And again, so happy they're not trying to retread old ground.
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Old December 11 2012, 07:34 AM   #15
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I'm so jazzed. And again, so happy they're not trying to retread old ground.
This will certainly be interesting. Apparently in Wrath of Khan, Kirks first words when they actually meet again face to face is :

“I did what you wanted……I stayed away”


That tells me that Kirk wanted to be with her and she is the one who basically told him to get lost. Indeed this will be interesting, that is if she is pregnant by the end of this film. We might have to wait till the 3rd installment for that to happen.
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