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Old December 13 2012, 03:22 AM   #91
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Re: Samuel L. Jackson Wants to Return as a One-Handed or Ghost Mace Wi

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Old December 13 2012, 09:49 AM   #92
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Hell, the latter two are frequently survivable for regular humans, and even falls from great heights on extremely rare occasions are survivable.
No one is arguing that he died due to having a limb chopped off.
Funny, I don't recall saying anyone had made that argument either. I was simply cataloging the various injuries and events that happened to him prior to and at the moment of his being flung out the window and why I thought it was possible for him to survive as a result IMO, not refuting your or anyone else's specific argument. If I had done that, I would have quoted or named the people whose arguments I was refuting.
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Old December 13 2012, 09:25 PM   #93
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I know some don't consider it canon nor like any single thing about it, but the return of Darth Maul in cybernetic form in Seasons 4 and 5 of The Clone Wars happened after Maul was not only sliced clean in half by a lightsaber but also after his remains tumbled down an extremely long and deep plasma shaft in the Theed hangar facility on Naboo. Who knows what he might have fallen into when he finally reached the end of that fall in addition to being cut in two and most likely being in some sort of shock.

If Darth Maul could continue to live after losing every inch of his body from the six-pack or navel down then it's sure not out of the realm of possibility that Mace could have somehow survived even after the barrage of Sith lightning and long, acrophobia- or vertigo-exacerbating fall. I'm still inclined to think that the Clone Troopers acting under Order 66 got him even if the fall didn't, but in the Star Wars universe there've been characters who've managed to survive worse and emerge more badass than before.
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Old December 13 2012, 09:29 PM   #94
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Who is left alive that even knew Mace for him to come back and talk to?
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Old December 13 2012, 09:29 PM   #95
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I thought the "There is Another" line referring to Leia has been more or less common knowledge for anybody who's seen both Empire and Jedi, but oh well.
At the time of the filming and release of ESTB, it probably was not referring to Leia. She was only made his sister during the production of ROTJ. Prior to ROTJ, Luke's sister was a brand new character entirely. Likely the other Yoda referred to was intended as that sister or another "chosen one" type character that was recycled into kid Anakin in TPM.
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Old December 13 2012, 09:33 PM   #96
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Who is left alive that even knew Mace for him to come back and talk to?
Well, the two droids I suppose. It's possible Mace met Chewbacca during a visit to Kashyyyk before Episode III since he and Yoda are listed in written materials as perhaps the two most-traveled of all the Jedi of their era. And, of course, he can always carry on some kind of conversations with the ghosts of Yoda, Obi-Wan and Anakin. Even Qui-Gon, since we know he became a Force ghost like the others eventually did.
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Or, very likely, he heard stories of what happened and decided to come out of hiding as a result, especially knowing that the Emperor and Vader are both dead. It's not like it's a big secret or anything. And if word is being spread that Jedi were involved, I'm sure he'd be very interested in tracking them down.
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Old December 14 2012, 01:09 AM   #98
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OLD MACE: "There's another Jedi named Skywalker?

Awwww, @#%*....I've got a BAD feelin' about this."
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Old December 14 2012, 02:43 AM   #99
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I know some don't consider it canon nor like any single thing about it, but the return of Darth Maul in cybernetic form in Seasons 4 and 5 of The Clone Wars happened after Maul was not only sliced clean in half by a lightsaber but also after his remains tumbled down an extremely long and deep plasma shaft in the Theed hangar facility on Naboo. Who knows what he might have fallen into when he finally reached the end of that fall in addition to being cut in two and most likely being in some sort of shock.

If Darth Maul could continue to live after losing every inch of his body from the six-pack or navel down then it's sure not out of the realm of possibility that Mace could have somehow survived even after the barrage of Sith lightning and long, acrophobia- or vertigo-exacerbating fall. I'm still inclined to think that the Clone Troopers acting under Order 66 got him even if the fall didn't, but in the Star Wars universe there've been characters who've managed to survive worse and emerge more badass than before.
They managed to somehow find Luke's severed hand and lightsaber from TESB to clone his evil twin, Luuke... Personally, I still find it amusing that Savage Opress is often touted as being "Darth Maul's brother."
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Old December 15 2012, 03:28 PM   #100
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The Savage Opress thing always amuses me a little, not so much because the humorous action figure packaging described him as "Darth Maul's Brother" while the other characters in the set got better and more interesting descriptions , but because some of the same people who decry characters that are derivative of others or bringing old characters and ideas back in new stories were some of the first to say how cool and awesome Savage was in The Clone Wars.

But as we all know too well from being sci-fi/fantasy afficionados, decrying and denouncing something on the one hand while embracing and celebrating something else very similar on the other is a trademark of our beloved little society. If they ever found a way to somehow purge hypocrisy from the human genome a big chunk of the sci-fi/fantasy community (as well as mankind in general) will shrivel up and cease to exist.
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