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Old December 14 2012, 08:47 PM   #211
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Re: Details of 9 Minute Preview Revealed *SPOILERS*

I'll just say a couple of things right now:

  • The sick child at the hospital in the opening sequence has somewhat thinning hair, but otherwise appears to be wasting as one would expect a sick child to be. At least to my eyes she didn't show any particular symptoms of progeria or any other "premature aging." So unless one of the early viewers who reported this has some other information or reason to know this, I'd say that looking to the child's illness as evidence of the villain's identity (genetic illness, aging etc) is probably a mistake.
  • Of course the father asks Cumberbatch "who are you?" just before the scene cutaway. The mystery of who, exactly, Harrison is will probably be central to the story as it unfolds rather than just a pre-release marketing tool.
  • The Spock/Uhura thing is still on, at least at the opening of the movie (she fusses over him and tries to kiss him through his helmet). Who knows where it will wind up by the end.
  • McCoy's line: "Shut up, Spock, we're trying to save you" - straight from "The Immunity Syndrome (please don't make a nerdish correction; I know that the original is slightly different)." Loved it. McCoy has the best lines in the sequence - and Scotty complains about the engineering issues with keeping the ship underwater.
  • The Enterprise looks damn good underwater. People who keep insisting that old-timey practical models "always look more real" than CG need to give it up - they're wrong, straight up, and have been wrong for a while.
  • I'm buying Pine as Kirk, no problem.
  • It's not Gary Mitchell.
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Old December 14 2012, 08:56 PM   #212
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Re: Details of 9 Minute Preview Revealed *SPOILERS*

I think Starship Troopers was probably the last great ship model movie.
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Old December 14 2012, 09:51 PM   #213
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Maybe so.

The group of familiar faces aboard the Enterprise are endearing and mesh well, in this brief action sequences.

Essentially, this is Star Trek turned up to 11.
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Old December 14 2012, 10:01 PM   #214
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I think Starship Troopers was probably the last great ship model movie.
I liked the model work in Moon, although that was supplemented with CGI.
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Old December 14 2012, 10:17 PM   #215
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I think Starship Troopers was probably the last great ship model movie.
I liked the model work in Moon, although that was supplemented with CGI.
Yeah, the combination worked really well in Moon
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Old December 14 2012, 10:36 PM   #216
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Moon is very good. I really meant ST for those big, elegant, slow-moving mass ships; Galactica, Star Destroyer, Trek starship like. Probably just me but I really felt those ships had heft.
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Old December 14 2012, 10:44 PM   #217
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Essentially, this is Star Trek turned up to 11.
Shouldn't that be 12?
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Old December 14 2012, 11:37 PM   #218
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Saw this 9 min preview, and loved it - glad I went to a theater that showed it.....love seeing a lot of diverse uniforms, like the first movie. That was always a complaint I had with the original movies and TNG era - everyone looked the same!!!! Diversity is key
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Old December 14 2012, 11:39 PM   #219
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Reviews of what, a 9 minute teaser? Hardly indicative of anything.
Not really so. If the first ten minutes of the movie are really good, it's not likely that the rest sucks.

Hell, film marketers have their challenges making a two-minute theatrical trailer for a bad movie without letting the cat out of the bag (somewhat more true, I think for comedies than action films, but still...).
I've seen you use some far-fetched rationales for why the contrived, shallow storytelling of Abrams Star Trek should be considered good, but this one takes the cake. Film marketers have made excellent trailers for a thousand bad movies, which is why bad movies frequently make good money.

The preview sounds as totally unoriginal as everything else I've seen or heard about this flick (even down to the copycat movie poster). It all sounds good for maybe a chuckle or two and some nonsensical FX eye candy, which I can get out of a hundred other tedious cookie cutter Hollywood action movies. Star Trek 2009 for example.

But I'm glad to read the synopses as they saved me from having even the slightest desire to spend the extra $5 to see The Hobbit in IMAX.
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Old December 14 2012, 11:52 PM   #220
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I think Dennis is on the mark with the ten-minute rule, in the very least. I'm having a hard time coming up with many Hollywood movies that had excellent set-up sequences only to fall apart later.

Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom is a good exception to the rule, thinking about it. The Shanghai opening is terrific, but once Indiana ends up in India (say that three times fast), the movie is a mess that not even a terrific John Williams score can save.
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Old December 14 2012, 11:54 PM   #221
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That Shanghai opening is just about ok as a musical pastiche. The rest of the movie's an abomination.
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Old December 14 2012, 11:56 PM   #222
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I've seen you use some far-fetched rationales for why the contrived, shallow storytelling of Abrams Star Trek should be considered good, but this one takes the cake.
I endeavor to exceed myself.

Here's a pro tip, though: it helps not to be so solemn about oneself and one's opinions.
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Old December 14 2012, 11:59 PM   #223
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I've seen you use some far-fetched rationales for why the contrived, shallow storytelling of Abrams Star Trek should be considered good, but this one takes the cake.
I endeavor to exceed myself.

Here's a pro tip, though: it helps not to be so solemn about oneself and one's opinions.
See, I am of the opinion that some of the fans are so rigid, so close-minded in their acceptance of mainstream in Trek, that JJ Abrams failed before those same people saw one frame
of footage

tell me I have those types pegged wrong? Cause, it feels dead on true
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Old December 15 2012, 12:00 AM   #224
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Chill out, people. Imagine if they DID release these 9 minutes for everyone to see... You'd probably see it 956 times before May 2013. Don't you wanna enjoy the movie in its entirety, from the moment it begins?
How so? I'd be perfectly fine watching it once.

But as it is, I won't get to see it at all. The nearest theater to me that is showing it is nine hours away. I'm not driving 18 hours to see one trailer and a movie I have absolutely no interest in seeing.

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I've seen you use some far-fetched rationales for why the contrived, shallow storytelling of Abrams Star Trek should be considered good, but this one takes the cake.
Just out of curiosity, what do you consider good?

More to the point, name one Trek film that isn't shallow or contrived...

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Old December 15 2012, 12:05 AM   #225
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Please don't misattribute that tedium to me - you messed up your quote tags, there.
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