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Old December 11 2012, 12:20 AM   #136
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Re: Details of 9 Minute Preview Revealed *SPOILERS*

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Well:

Hes the villain
He is returning for vengeance
He says we think our world is safe.. implying it isn't
He stands around hospitals offering to cure sick children
He has superhuman strength and abilities
Can be captured and held in a brig
Can be punched in the face
Has to run away from someone in the trailer
Appears to be in Starfleet
Possibly takes command of a starship
Detonates the fleet and is or has some form of WMD

Who is it??!!!
John Harrison, a bridge officer from TOS.
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Old December 11 2012, 12:22 AM   #137
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Re: Details of 9 Minute Preview Revealed *SPOILERS*

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Flake wrote: View Post
Well:

Hes the villain
He is returning for vengeance
He says we think our world is safe.. implying it isn't
He stands around hospitals offering to cure sick children
He has superhuman strength and abilities
Can be captured and held in a brig
Can be punched in the face
Has to run away from someone in the trailer
Appears to be in Starfleet
Possibly takes command of a starship
Detonates the fleet and is or has some form of WMD

Who is it??!!!
John Harrison, a bridge officer from TOS.
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Old December 11 2012, 12:27 AM   #138
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Re: Details of 9 Minute Preview Revealed *SPOILERS*

THAT's the big reveal?

Who the fuck is John Harrison?
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Old December 11 2012, 12:29 AM   #139
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THAT's the big reveal?

Who the fuck is John Harrison?

Lt Harrison (Ron Veto) appeared in 27 episodes of the original series, including Space Seed. He was in more episodes than Lt Kyle (John Winston) who appeared in 11. Harrison is Canon from the first and second seasons.
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Old December 11 2012, 12:31 AM   #140
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Re: Details of 9 Minute Preview Revealed *SPOILERS*

What, did they just pick that out of a hat or something? Some irrelevant background character?
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Old December 11 2012, 12:33 AM   #141
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Old December 11 2012, 12:34 AM   #142
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Did he even have a single line of dialogue in TOS?
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Old December 11 2012, 12:35 AM   #143
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Re: Details of 9 Minute Preview Revealed *SPOILERS*

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THAT's the big reveal?

Who the fuck is John Harrison?

Lt Harrison (Ron Veto) appeared in 27 episodes of the original series, including Space Seed. He was in more episodes than Lt Kyle (John Winston) who appeared in 11. Harrison is Cannon from the first and second seasons.
A background extra that even the most fanboy of Trek fans don't even know without having to Google his name is going to be the bad guy? I don't think so.
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Old December 11 2012, 12:36 AM   #144
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THAT's the big reveal?

Who the fuck is John Harrison?

Lt Harrison (Ron Veto) appeared in 27 episodes of the original series, including Space Seed. He was in more episodes than Lt Kyle (John Winston) who appeared in 11. Harrison is Cannon from the first and second seasons.
A background extra that even the most fanboy of Trek fans don't even know without having to Google his name is going to be the bad guy? I don't think so.
Why not? Did anybody know Nero before the first movie?
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Old December 11 2012, 12:38 AM   #145
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Did he even have a single line of dialogue in TOS?

Don't remember. But think of this..........They originally wanted Benicio Del Toro (Puerto Rican) as the lead. He actually resembles the Ron Veto (Hawaiian) who played Harrison in the original series first season episodes. Check out the comparison:

Ron Veto/ Lt Harrison
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Harrison

Del Toro
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Old December 11 2012, 12:38 AM   #146
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Why not? Did anybody know Nero before the first movie?
To make up a completely original character is accepted and happens all the time; to take some random extra and make him the big baddie is just, well, a bit weird.

A similar situation would be, if a human villain in Transfomers 4 turns out to be the little girl whose swimming pool got crushed by Rawhide in the first film.
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Old December 11 2012, 12:45 AM   #147
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Why not? Did anybody know Nero before the first movie?
To make up a completely original character is accepted and happens all the time; to take some random extra and make him the big baddie is just, well, a bit weird.

A similar situation would be, if a human villain in Transfomers 4 turns out to be the little girl whose swimming pool got crushed by Rawhide in the first film.
I don't doubt it's a bit weird.
On the other hand, he's free of any baggage since we didn't really know much from TOS.
It will all depend on his story this time around. If it's a good story, who cares who he is?

Unless this is some kind of trick of course.
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Old December 11 2012, 12:45 AM   #148
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Why not? Did anybody know Nero before the first movie?
Nero was a completely original character. The extra Lt. Harrison is a nobody.

Never mind the fact that one or two people are making this connection solely from the character's last name, and that some rumor said BC's character was from TOS, which hasn't even been realistically proven.

Some Trekkies can make the weirdest of connections.
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Old December 11 2012, 12:45 AM   #149
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To make up a completely original character is accepted and happens all the time; to take some random extra and make him the big baddie is just, well, a bit weird.
It happens all the time in Star Wars. Abrams is a big Star Wars fan who feels more SW should be injected into Trek. So...
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Old December 11 2012, 12:58 AM   #150
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Re: Details of 9 Minute Preview Revealed *SPOILERS*

He's handsome, but I don't understand why they would do such a thing.

Unless they wanted to create an original character with a name in canon. As Orci said, his character is indeed from canon but we all assumed it would be somebody big. So this way, 1) Orci told the truth, 2) they can still create a completely new character, and 3) it gives a little service to the really fanboy-ish fans.
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