Darth Pike?

Drago-Kazov · August 20 2012, 10:47 AM

I mean J.J does copy the structure of the SW OT. The first movie was wery much like the New Hope it would make sense that the tone and even the structure from the second movie will be similar to EsB. is Pike going to be revealed as a bad guy or someone who has to dod something really evil in order to achiev the greater good. He has to be in some shadowy cabal according to the Archon comic and it would also make sense since J.J. imitates Star wars. i really that cabal will be Section 31.

Any toughts?

EyalM · August 20 2012, 02:29 PM

Where in Star Wars OT did a mentor\father figure turn evil?

BillJ · August 20 2012, 02:33 PM

I'd actually like them to concentrate on the main characters, Pike and Spock Prime should be left behind.

Drago-Kazov · August 20 2012, 05:19 PM

EyalM wrote:

Where in Star Wars OT did a mentor\father figure turn evil?

Not the mentor figure but Anakin did turn evil. And Pike is almost like Kirks second father so it would make sense.

Nerys Myk · August 20 2012, 06:09 PM

Pike is more like Ben than Darth.

Dukhat · August 20 2012, 07:03 PM

Drago-Kazov wrote:

I mean J.J does copy the structure of the SW OT. The first movie was wery much like the New Hope it would make sense that the tone and even the structure from the second movie will be similar to EsB. is Pike going to be revealed as a bad guy or someone who has to dod something really evil in order to achiev the greater good. He has to be in some shadowy cabal according to the Archon comic and it would also make sense since J.J. imitates Star wars. i really that cabal will be Section 31.

Any toughts?

Yeah...where do you get that JJ is imitating Star Wars? Because he threw in a 1-second easter egg of R2D2?

BillJ · August 20 2012, 07:23 PM

Dukhat wrote:

Drago-Kazov wrote:

I mean J.J does copy the structure of the SW OT. The first movie was wery much like the New Hope it would make sense that the tone and even the structure from the second movie will be similar to EsB. is Pike going to be revealed as a bad guy or someone who has to dod something really evil in order to achiev the greater good. He has to be in some shadowy cabal according to the Archon comic and it would also make sense since J.J. imitates Star wars. i really that cabal will be Section 31.

Any toughts?

Yeah...where do you get that JJ is imitating Star Wars? Because he threw in a 1-second easter egg of R2D2?

Well, the sheer number of coincidences required to move the story forward would make you think the Midi-chlorians were driving the whole thing.

M'Sharak · August 20 2012, 07:51 PM

Drago-Kazov wrote:

...is Pike going to be revealed as a bad guy...

He has to be in some shadowy cabal...

That sounds at least as much like Jim Phelps in the first Mission: Impossible movie as it does Darth Anyone in Star Wars.

Drago-Kazov wrote:

i really that cabal will be Section 31.

Any toughts?

I could do without Section 31 putting in an appearance, tbh.

BillJ · August 20 2012, 07:52 PM

M'Sharak wrote:

I could do without Section 31 putting in an appearance, tbh.

Too bad there isn't a 'Like' button because I agree with this one-hundred percent.

Drago-Kazov · August 21 2012, 08:11 AM

Dukhat wrote:

Drago-Kazov wrote:

I mean J.J does copy the structure of the SW OT. The first movie was wery much like the New Hope it would make sense that the tone and even the structure from the second movie will be similar to EsB. is Pike going to be revealed as a bad guy or someone who has to dod something really evil in order to achiev the greater good. He has to be in some shadowy cabal according to the Archon comic and it would also make sense since J.J. imitates Star wars. i really that cabal will be Section 31.

Any toughts?

Yeah...where do you get that JJ is imitating Star Wars? Because he threw in a 1-second easter egg of R2D2?

The Narada is wery similar to the death Star in terms of destructive ability.

Important peACEFULL PLANET blownup...check

Old mentor figure living in exile...check

Cantina scene, j J wanted one but decided not to go trough with it..Check

Final battle onboard the Death Star/Narada...Check

Hero without purpose on Iowa/Tatooine...Check

Devon · August 21 2012, 08:15 AM

Drago-Kazov wrote:

Dukhat wrote:

Drago-Kazov wrote:

I mean J.J does copy the structure of the SW OT. The first movie was wery much like the New Hope it would make sense that the tone and even the structure from the second movie will be similar to EsB. is Pike going to be revealed as a bad guy or someone who has to dod something really evil in order to achiev the greater good. He has to be in some shadowy cabal according to the Archon comic and it would also make sense since J.J. imitates Star wars. i really that cabal will be Section 31.

Any toughts?

Yeah...where do you get that JJ is imitating Star Wars? Because he threw in a 1-second easter egg of R2D2?

The Narada is wery similar to the death Star in terms of destructive ability.

Important peACEFULL PLANET blownup...check

Old mentor figure living in exile...check

Cantina scene, j J wanted one but decided not to go trough with it..Check

Final battle onboard the Death Star/Narada...Check

Hero without purpose on Iowa/Tatooine...Check

J.J. didn't write the film.. check.

Drago-Kazov · August 21 2012, 08:33 AM

I did know that but he was an important part of the team and he that said he or they took inspiration from SW.

CorporalCaptain · August 21 2012, 08:45 AM

Drago-Kazov wrote:

Final battle onboard the Death Star/Narada...Check

The final battle in Star Wars (1977) was not fought onboard the Death Star.

Uncheck.

Drago-Kazov · August 21 2012, 10:12 AM

Owrite i was wrong there.

King Daniel · August 21 2012, 10:35 AM

Drago-Kazov wrote:

I did know that but he was an important part of the team and he that said he or they took inspiration from SW.

Nu-uh. This video PROVES it's a scene-for-scene rip-off of Starship Troopers!

August 20 2012, 10:47 AM	#1
Drago-Kazov Fleet Captain	Darth Pike? I mean J.J does copy the structure of the SW OT. The first movie was wery much like the New Hope it would make sense that the tone and even the structure from the second movie will be similar to EsB. is Pike going to be revealed as a bad guy or someone who has to dod something really evil in order to achiev the greater good. He has to be in some shadowy cabal according to the Archon comic and it would also make sense since J.J. imitates Star wars. i really that cabal will be Section 31. Any toughts?

August 20 2012, 02:29 PM	#2
EyalM Captain Location: Haifa	Re: Darth Pike? Where in Star Wars OT did a mentor\father figure turn evil? __________________ Well, he’s kind of had it in for me ever since I accidentally ran over his dog. Actually, replace ’accidentally’ with ’repeatedly’ and replace ’dog’ with ’son.’

August 20 2012, 02:33 PM	#3
BillJ Vice Admiral Location: Greater Cincinnati	Re: Darth Pike? I'd actually like them to concentrate on the main characters, Pike and Spock Prime should be left behind. __________________ J.J. Abrams didn't change Star Trek, audience expectations did.

August 20 2012, 06:09 PM	#5
Nerys Myk Admiral Location: House of Kang, now with ridges	Re: Darth Pike? Pike is more like Ben than Darth. __________________ Nerys Myk's Midnight In Never Land A novel of Dark Fantasy @ Amazon.com

August 21 2012, 08:33 AM	#12
Drago-Kazov Fleet Captain	Re: Darth Pike? I did know that but he was an important part of the team and he that said he or they took inspiration from SW.

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August 21 2012, 10:12 AM	#14
Drago-Kazov Fleet Captain	Re: Darth Pike? Owrite i was wrong there.