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Old August 20 2012, 10:47 AM   #1
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Darth Pike?

I mean J.J does copy the structure of the SW OT. The first movie was wery much like the New Hope it would make sense that the tone and even the structure from the second movie will be similar to EsB. is Pike going to be revealed as a bad guy or someone who has to dod something really evil in order to achiev the greater good. He has to be in some shadowy cabal according to the Archon comic and it would also make sense since J.J. imitates Star wars. i really that cabal will be Section 31.

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Old August 20 2012, 02:29 PM   #2
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Re: Darth Pike?

Where in Star Wars OT did a mentor\father figure turn evil?
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Old August 20 2012, 02:33 PM   #3
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I'd actually like them to concentrate on the main characters, Pike and Spock Prime should be left behind.
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Old August 20 2012, 05:19 PM   #4
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Where in Star Wars OT did a mentor\father figure turn evil?
Not the mentor figure but Anakin did turn evil. And Pike is almost like Kirks second father so it would make sense.
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Old August 20 2012, 06:09 PM   #5
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Pike is more like Ben than Darth.
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Old August 20 2012, 07:03 PM   #6
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Re: Darth Pike?

Drago-Kazov wrote: View Post
I mean J.J does copy the structure of the SW OT. The first movie was wery much like the New Hope it would make sense that the tone and even the structure from the second movie will be similar to EsB. is Pike going to be revealed as a bad guy or someone who has to dod something really evil in order to achiev the greater good. He has to be in some shadowy cabal according to the Archon comic and it would also make sense since J.J. imitates Star wars. i really that cabal will be Section 31.

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Yeah...where do you get that JJ is imitating Star Wars? Because he threw in a 1-second easter egg of R2D2?
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Old August 20 2012, 07:23 PM   #7
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Dukhat wrote: View Post
Drago-Kazov wrote: View Post
I mean J.J does copy the structure of the SW OT. The first movie was wery much like the New Hope it would make sense that the tone and even the structure from the second movie will be similar to EsB. is Pike going to be revealed as a bad guy or someone who has to dod something really evil in order to achiev the greater good. He has to be in some shadowy cabal according to the Archon comic and it would also make sense since J.J. imitates Star wars. i really that cabal will be Section 31.

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Yeah...where do you get that JJ is imitating Star Wars? Because he threw in a 1-second easter egg of R2D2?
Well, the sheer number of coincidences required to move the story forward would make you think the Midi-chlorians were driving the whole thing.
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Old August 20 2012, 07:51 PM   #8
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...is Pike going to be revealed as a bad guy...

He has to be in some shadowy cabal...
That sounds at least as much like Jim Phelps in the first Mission: Impossible movie as it does Darth Anyone in Star Wars.

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i really that cabal will be Section 31.

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I could do without Section 31 putting in an appearance, tbh.
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Old August 20 2012, 07:52 PM   #9
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I could do without Section 31 putting in an appearance, tbh.
Too bad there isn't a 'Like' button because I agree with this one-hundred percent.
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Old August 21 2012, 08:11 AM   #10
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I mean J.J does copy the structure of the SW OT. The first movie was wery much like the New Hope it would make sense that the tone and even the structure from the second movie will be similar to EsB. is Pike going to be revealed as a bad guy or someone who has to dod something really evil in order to achiev the greater good. He has to be in some shadowy cabal according to the Archon comic and it would also make sense since J.J. imitates Star wars. i really that cabal will be Section 31.

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Yeah...where do you get that JJ is imitating Star Wars? Because he threw in a 1-second easter egg of R2D2?
The Narada is wery similar to the death Star in terms of destructive ability.

Important peACEFULL PLANET blownup...check

Old mentor figure living in exile...check

Cantina scene, j J wanted one but decided not to go trough with it..Check

Final battle onboard the Death Star/Narada...Check

Hero without purpose on Iowa/Tatooine...Check
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Old August 21 2012, 08:15 AM   #11
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Re: Darth Pike?

Drago-Kazov wrote: View Post
Dukhat wrote: View Post
Drago-Kazov wrote: View Post
I mean J.J does copy the structure of the SW OT. The first movie was wery much like the New Hope it would make sense that the tone and even the structure from the second movie will be similar to EsB. is Pike going to be revealed as a bad guy or someone who has to dod something really evil in order to achiev the greater good. He has to be in some shadowy cabal according to the Archon comic and it would also make sense since J.J. imitates Star wars. i really that cabal will be Section 31.

Any toughts?
Yeah...where do you get that JJ is imitating Star Wars? Because he threw in a 1-second easter egg of R2D2?
The Narada is wery similar to the death Star in terms of destructive ability.

Important peACEFULL PLANET blownup...check

Old mentor figure living in exile...check

Cantina scene, j J wanted one but decided not to go trough with it..Check

Final battle onboard the Death Star/Narada...Check

Hero without purpose on Iowa/Tatooine...Check
J.J. didn't write the film.. check.
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Old August 21 2012, 08:33 AM   #12
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Re: Darth Pike?

I did know that but he was an important part of the team and he that said he or they took inspiration from SW.
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Old August 21 2012, 08:45 AM   #13
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Final battle onboard the Death Star/Narada...Check
The final battle in Star Wars (1977) was not fought onboard the Death Star.

Uncheck.
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Old August 21 2012, 10:12 AM   #14
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Owrite i was wrong there.
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Old August 21 2012, 10:35 AM   #15
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I did know that but he was an important part of the team and he that said he or they took inspiration from SW.
Nu-uh. This video PROVES it's a scene-for-scene rip-off of Starship Troopers!
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