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Old July 26 2014, 07:59 AM   #736
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I don't think that anyone has the stones to call bullshit on that.

Y'know, to his face.
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Old July 26 2014, 08:01 AM   #737
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Maybe its just a bad photo, but shouldn't Thing's eyes be blue?
They look blue to me...but it's just a stand-in/CGI reference prop anyway.
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Old July 26 2014, 10:02 AM   #738
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Looks darker and grittier-- literally.
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Old July 26 2014, 10:25 AM   #739
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I think it looks good, if real. It wouldn't really bother me if they depart from the orange colour.
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Old July 26 2014, 10:31 AM   #740
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Fuck that! What's next? A Red Hulk?
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Old July 30 2014, 05:28 AM   #741
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I like it. If this is the final color and everything, I'm not that worried. They change a lot of stuff for movies, so try to worry about stuff like that. I don't really see this being any different than the Batsuits in not being grey or blue in most of the movie, or the X-Men wearing black leather.
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Old July 30 2014, 12:21 PM   #742
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Heck, the orange was probably just the closest they could come to brown using the limited color palette of early comics. Just like Batman's "blue" cape was originally supposed to be a black cape with blue used to represent its highlights (much like characters meant to be black-haired were often shown with blue hair).

Then again, Kirby originally intended the Thing to be scaly, not rocky. The rocky texture came from later artists' interpretations. So maybe he was meant to be orange.
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Old July 30 2014, 12:32 PM   #743
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Then again, Kirby originally intended the Thing to be scaly, not rocky. The rocky texture came from later artists' interpretations. So maybe he was meant to be orange.
Actually, Kirby himself switched to drawing the Thing with the rocky texture fairly early in the character's development IIRC. And didn't Kirby draw the book for approximately 100 issues, most of which featured the rocky thing
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Old July 30 2014, 12:41 PM   #744
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http://goodcomics.comicbookresources...-revealed-253/

You see, first off, Kirby wanted the Thing to be like dinosaur hide.
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Even after he first made the Thing change appearance, Kirby was STILL thinking in terms of “dinosaur hard plates” rather than “rocks.”
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[Inker] Dick Ayers could never figure out what Kirby wanted, but TRIED to at least move from the Thing being “muddy” to the Thing being “scaly,” but it was not until Goerge Roussos began inking the book that the Thing pretty much overnight became “rocky,” as Roussos tried to capture what he thought Kirby wanted.
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At the time, though, Kirby kept penciling the Thing the same way – like a scaly/
plate-y” creature, it was just up to his inkers on how they interpreted the look.
Then when Joe Sinnott took over as inker and basically created the modern look for the Thing, Kirby eventually changed the way he pencilled the character to match.

So it wasn't Kirby who switched the look at first, it was his inkers, redrawing his rounded "dinosaur scales" into angular "rock plates," as shown in the images in the linked article. But it was a little while longer before Kirby actually changed the way he drew the character.

Just goes to show how important inkers are to the process.
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Old July 30 2014, 04:48 PM   #745
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I wonder if they had that in mind when the Thing was briefly redesigned/mutated in the 80s. He had some Dinosaur-like characteristics with that new look. Joe Sinnott inked those issues, oddly enough. This was also the era of the "She-Thing"-Sharon Ventura (Mrs. Marvel II) transformed into a Thing as well.
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Old July 31 2014, 01:42 AM   #746
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Heck, the orange was probably just the closest they could come to brown using the limited color palette of early comics.
Long before the Thing, comics had no problem coloring anything brown. From skin color, to hamburger buns to dirt, the various tones under the category of brown was possible.
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Old July 31 2014, 01:44 AM   #747
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Its going to be a train wreck.
Probably.
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Old July 31 2014, 09:47 AM   #748
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I wonder if they had that in mind when the Thing was briefly redesigned/mutated in the 80s. He had some Dinosaur-like characteristics with that new look. Joe Sinnott inked those issues, oddly enough. This was also the era of the "She-Thing"-Sharon Ventura (Mrs. Marvel II) transformed into a Thing as well.
What they did there was make the changes in art part of the story-- basically, they were saying that Ben underwent an initially rough transformation that became more refined over time. His appearance evolved as his body adapted to the change. Then when it happened to Sharon, she went through the same process.
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Old July 31 2014, 06:09 PM   #749
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Yeah, there was also a change during the Bryne era from rocky thing to muddy thing as well for a few issues. (Although Stegosaurus/Ankylosaurus Thing appeared in the Steve Englehart/Kevin Pollard/Joe Sinnot issues and in a few Simonsons).
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Old July 31 2014, 07:39 PM   #750
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Heck, the orange was probably just the closest they could come to brown using the limited color palette of early comics.
Long before the Thing, comics had no problem coloring anything brown. From skin color, to hamburger buns to dirt, the various tones under the category of brown was possible.
Indeed, in the first issue the Thing's trunks were colored brown. Color reprints tend to retcon them blue, though the blue uniforms wouldn't be established until #3.
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