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Old May 26 2013, 09:46 PM   #241
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^^ Well, it didn't have serialized plotting, of course, but the characterization and aesthetics were in line with the books.
No, they were both far cruder and not very accurate. For instance, there was only one episode in which a character named "Mary Jane" appeared, and she was portrayed as a ditzy go-go dancer and photography buff who happened to be Captain Stacy's niece (and neither of them looked like they did in the comics). Jameson was a regular character in at least the first season, and he was pretty faithfully portrayed, but most of the rest of the supporting cast was nowhere in sight.
Well, that could be. I mostly read FF back in those days and knew Spider-Man mainly from guest appearances.
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Old July 24 2013, 09:19 PM   #242
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Production is to start in September, and will film in Louisiana, rather than the rumored Vancouvver.
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Old July 24 2013, 10:21 PM   #243
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Fox creative consultant Mark Millar says the film will contain "stuff you haven't seen in a superhero movie before."
Wouldn't it be nice if that means the movie will focus more on the FF as celebrity explorers/adventurers? That would be a nice variation on the superhero-movie formula.
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Old July 24 2013, 10:47 PM   #244
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^^^
That was Doug Petrie's take when he wrote a script for Fantastic Four in the early 2000s. His script wasn't an origin story, but had the FF already established as very popular superheroes. He envisioned the movie as a superhero version of A Hard Day's Night.
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Old July 24 2013, 10:56 PM   #245
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^That sounds very cool.
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Old July 24 2013, 10:59 PM   #246
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Damn. I was hoping this would quietly die so Marvel could regain the rights : (
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Old July 25 2013, 12:18 AM   #247
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Fox creative consultant Mark Millar says the film will contain "stuff you haven't seen in a superhero movie before."
Wouldn't it be nice if that means the movie will focus more on the FF as celebrity explorers/adventurers? That would be a nice variation on the superhero-movie formula.
I'd like to see the FF just fight some villain like Super Skrull or something. Don't make it a full blown origin, have them already be heroes, and have them do heroic stuff and save the world. I don't know what a "celebrity/adventurer" is, but in this context it sounds like if the Challengers of the Unknown were a group of actors. An Adventurer isn't a superhero, its Indiana Jones. I really enjoyed the Indiana Jones movies, but thats not a type of film that fits with the FF. I just want some supervillain/event threatening the world, and an FF who is interesting to watch (especially an Invisible Woman who is played better than alba's version).
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Old July 25 2013, 12:44 AM   #248
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An Adventurer isn't a superhero, its Indiana Jones. I really enjoyed the Indiana Jones movies, but thats not a type of film that fits with the FF.
Actually it does. The FF were never meant to be regarded as superheroes. They've always been adventurers and explorers of the unknown--that's what sets them apart in the superheroic community. The FF aren't about fighting extra-dimensional bad guys, they've always been more interested in understanding the extra-dimension the bad guys come from.
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Old July 25 2013, 12:49 AM   #249
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I still don't know what the HELL they did they do with Alba in the second movie? Alba looked so hot in the first FF, but the stupid blonde wig and blue contacts in the second FF made her look like the third Wyans brother from White Chicks.
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Old July 25 2013, 01:45 AM   #250
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The FF were never meant to be regarded as superheroes. They've always been adventurers and explorers of the unknown--that's what sets them apart in the superheroic community.
Indeed. Remember, when FF began, superheroes as a genre hadn't quite made a comeback at Marvel yet. The first couple of issues were more along the lines of horror comics, with the FF in plainclothes and battling monsters and alien invaders. It wasn't until the third issue that they adopted costumes and started fighting supervillains, but it was always in their own characteristic way that defied superhero tropes -- for instance, they never had secret identities.

Within the Marvel Universe, the FF are more like the royal family than a crimefighting team. When other heroes need a scientific consult, they visit Reed Richards. When Earth faces a diplomatic crisis involving aliens or Atlanteans or Inhumans, Sue is the ambassador and peacekeeper. And a large part of the reason that other Marvel heroes have to take care of so many alien invasions and other dangerous situations themselves is because the FF spend so much time off Earth or outside our dimension, exploring other realms. So really, if the FF are just portrayed like any other superheroes, it's not at all accurate to the comics.

Besides, what's made the modern superhero genre so engaging is that it's so many different genres in one. Not every superhero movie is about crimefighting. The Iron Man films are techno-thrillers. Thor is supernatural fantasy with a Shakespearean flavor. Captain America was a WWII movie, and the sequel will be a gritty, verite-styled spy thriller. The X-Men films are political and social thrillers, allegories about bigotry, and in recent years they've become historical fiction as well. And Guardians of the Galaxy is going to be a big space opera sort of thing, evidently. So why couldn't FF also be a big adventure/sci-fi film about exploring the Negative Zone or the Microverse or traveling in time or whatever?
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Old July 26 2013, 12:15 AM   #251
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I've always found the less superhero like FF stuff in the comics to be the least interesting (especially with the more recent stuff which really started appearing near the very end of Hickman's run when F4 was just kind of losing direction and in the new, very poorly done current F4 comic). They can do good FF stuff that isn't straight superhero stuff, but I have no desire to spend 90-120 minutes watching the FF go around exploring and fight some random person (its a superhero movie, its obviosuly going to have a fight with a bad guy at some point). Even if they don't use Doctor Doom (and I kind of hope they don't, although I'm also pretty sure they will) it would be cool to see Superskrull, or maybe have reed match his intelligence with the Mad Thinker or something. It would be awesome to see something involving the inhumans or Black Panther, but I'm sure it will never happen. Its most likely going to be an origin, and probably have Dr. doom or Galactus. As long as its done well thats fine, but I think they should maybe stay away from Doom and galactus. They are both good villains, but I hope they go with something a bit different. I don't want to see the FF wandering around the negative zone or anything in some Indiana Jones style scavenger hunt, I just want a villain who's not the same as the first FF movies (or atleast I want a real Galactus, not a cloud).
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Old July 26 2013, 01:23 AM   #252
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Wow, well if you didn't like Hickman's run, I guess you probably just don't like the Fantastic 4.
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Old July 26 2013, 01:25 AM   #253
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Old July 26 2013, 05:20 PM   #254
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I'd like to see the FF go up against the Mole-Man and his creatures from Monster Island.
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Old July 26 2013, 06:45 PM   #255
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Wow, well if you didn't like Hickman's run, I guess you probably just don't like the Fantastic 4.
I did like Hickman's run. I've read F4 since Civil war, and I enjoyed it from then to the end of Hickman's run (I know he started after CW, I just started reading F4 then), I'm just saying that I liked the more superhero type stuff during his run, as opposed to the multiverse of evil Reed Richard's or Future Franklin/Val Richards screwing around in the present. That stuff wasn't bad, its just not type of F4 story I prefer. The only stuff I outright didn't like was his interpretation of the inhumans (Black Bolt having a harem of wives from different types of inhumans was stupid and the books that include the inhumans now just ignore it like it never happened), the fact that he didn't realise that the Power Pack have aged in the last 20+ years (seriously, two of them were elementary school kids in a few issues, when the youngest is supposed to be 16 and I think the two oldest are over 18 now), the few weird issues involving the "Nu-World" stuff and Sue Storm becoming some kind of ambassador for a formerly secret civilization underwater. Besides that, his run was very good. I just liked some things more than others.
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