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Old December 9 2012, 05:42 PM   #91
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Re: What is more Trek to you?

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Watched the teaser trailer. More vengeance coming. Is that the only plot these people know? Insurrection. Nemesis. XI, now XII all have vengeance at the core. It gets old to me. But maybe that's just me.
Again, the tag line for Wrath of Khan was:

"At the end of the universe lies the beginning of vengeance."

And that's the best Star Trek movie ever . . . .
EXACTLY. Once was enough. It was great. So let's make another vengeful bad-guy flick. Yay.

It's just not my cup of tea anymore, after 40 years of Trek-watching. (46 if you count I was a baby plopped down in front of first-runs I don't remember.)

Sigh. Big, loud, ear-hurting, hyperkinetic shoot-em-ups, 'splosion-fests are not "it" for me. Enjoy it if you like it, though.
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Old December 9 2012, 11:00 PM   #92
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Keep the canon and go forward after Nemesis.

A reboot will never be Star Trek. Star Trek was TOS, TNG, DS9 and VOY (and the first ten movies). Even ENT wasn't Star Trek, that's why it failed so miserably.

That being said, I liked the movie. But it's not Star Trek.
That is a rather ignorant viewpoint.

This reboot is Star Trek, whether you like it or not. It is a new canon perfectly within the Prime Universe's depiction of quantum realities. Hell, one of the Enterprises that appeared in "Parallels" was probably from the Abramsverse.

Enterprise was Star Trek, it was a prequel that fit snugly in an undeveloped portion of Prime canon. It is just as much Star Trek as Voyager, TOS, or TNG.

The canon was stale and limited. There wasn't much that could be done in the Prime Universe after the destruction of Romulus. If you go even farther into the future you rapidly get a disconnect from the present that makes the show harder for the uninitiated to get into.

A reboot was needed for the successful future of the series. Star Trek is now in the hands of JJ Abrams. STXI and STID are just as legitimate pieces of Star Trek canon as were First Contact and The Voyage Home.
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Old December 9 2012, 11:10 PM   #93
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Keep the canon and go forward after Nemesis.
Not going to happen . . . except in the books, of course.

What's the point of rebooting the franchise if you just go back to where you were before?
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Old December 11 2012, 05:37 AM   #94
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Put it this way, there are many painters who are Cubists, but there is only one Pablo Picasso. And you know a real Picasso when you see one. The others are all tributes to the master but they are not his works.

Kinda the way I feel about Star Trek. Roddenberry is dead and Star Trek went with him. Anybody else trying to work in his style is merely giving him a loving tribute.
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