Torias Dax in the new Star Trek movies?

JirinPanthosa · December 8 2012, 03:11 AM

Why not? He should be alive about now.

teacake · December 8 2012, 03:17 AM

This would make me happy.

Starbreaker · December 8 2012, 03:22 AM

There are probably less than 1,000 people who know who Torias Dax is.

Dream · December 8 2012, 03:26 AM

This would be an unnecessary connection to the Prime universe.

Admiral Buzzkill · December 8 2012, 03:31 AM

Starbreaker wrote:

There are probably less than 1,000 people who know who Torias Dax is.

Seriously. I don't know, and I don't care.

Melakon · December 8 2012, 03:31 AM

JirinPanthosa wrote:

Why not? He should be alive about now.

By that thinking, Commodore Mendez, Kevin Riley, and Galactic High Commissioner Ferris should all be in the film.

Dream · December 8 2012, 03:34 AM

What about the Dax that had "relations" with McCoy?

Greg Cox · December 8 2012, 03:39 AM

It's a whole new timeline, so we can't assume anything.

For all we know, Dax was on Vulcan when it blew up . . . .

mythme · December 8 2012, 03:42 AM

No matter which universe you're talking about, Kirk's time is a bit too early for Torias who was around in the first half of the 24th century. While the Dax symbiot was around at this time, Torias wasn't even born yet. Dax was joined to Emony during the Kirk years and after that lived an entire natural lifetime with Audred (who died of old age) before being joined with Torias

Mr. Laser Beam · December 8 2012, 04:00 AM

Anything after 2233 is a toss-up. So Torias may never even exist in the Abrams timeline. The host might not even be born, let alone ever be joined with Dax.

Minuet · December 8 2012, 07:57 AM

I'd love to see little references to the modern Trek series' post TOS. The new films should have them. They're little valentine cards to the old fans for being around so long. But they're only going to ever be throwaway references and one-liners, because it would be too distracting otherwise.

The plot of the '09 film was already absurdly complex--could you imagine if it was even moreso, filled with random little characters that only old-school fans could identify? Even if it would make me happy that they include characters from all the modern series' that I grew up with, I know they wouldn't, and I'm almost entirely sure they could easily damage a film by haphazardly doing it if they tried.

King Daniel into Darkness · December 8 2012, 11:13 AM

The last film had loads of references to other Treks - Uhura ordered a "Cardassian Sunrise" at the bar, Admiral Archer exiled Scotty to Delta Vega for killing his beloved beagle and Spock Prime of course continued on from what Next Gen's "Unification" established, that he had left Starfleet and was on Romulus. There are probably loads more.

I'm not so sure Into Darkness will have as many, though. It's seemily darker tone wouldn't fit cute shout-outs as well.

Mutenroshi · December 8 2012, 12:28 PM

Mmm, obscure reference is obscure.

-Brett- · December 8 2012, 08:35 PM

Archer is at least as obscure of a character as Dax, and they name dropped him. Possible, I guess.

If they name drop a TNG era character, it's more likely to be in connection to Picard, Data, or Worf, since those are the more well known characters of that generation.

RoJoHen · December 8 2012, 08:42 PM

I mean, if there's a reason for a random throwaway crewmember to actually be given a name, it certainly wouldn't hurt to have it be a reference to somebody we already know. There's as much of a reason to do it as there is not to.

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