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Old December 12 2012, 09:13 AM   #1
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Pet theory: reverse aging involved *Spoilers*

Apologies if this has been mentioned before -- I did a search but found no mention of it.

Here we go.

Based on the description of the 9-minute preview, I believe a key clue involves the girl's debilitating disease. She isn't simply sick. She has hyper-aging, something like Hutchinson–Gilford syndrome (a.k.a., progeria syndrome). The descriptions say that she looks old. Thin grey hair and all. "Harrison" comes and says that he can help the girl. He can save her.

Benedict Cumberbatch's character doesn't have magical, all-powerful healing powers. He has reverse-aging powers or technology.

Remember when Noel Clarke said that he wasn't sure we was in the movie? Clearly the hospital scene can't be a major plot point, merely a clue to what happens later, like the various openning scenes in ST09, many of which were cut from the finished film.

Various people have speculated that Benedict Cumberbatch could be playing Garth or Robert April (based on production sketch seen on the press tour), but isn't Cumberbatch too young to play Garth or April? Or isn't Cumberbatch fairly young in general for someone who is returning in long-festering vengeance?

I think Cumberbatch's character has reverse-aging powers or technology, and he adopts a pseudonym -- John Harrison -- to hide that he is a decades-younger April or Garth or whoever.

If April, as some think, this could be a clever homage to TAS's "The Counter-clock Incident," but others would moan that it also evokes "Insurrection."

Even crazier idea: What if Peter Weller is old Cumberbatch? We see him when old and wronged as Weller, and he returns having reversed-aged into Cumberbatch. Maybe not.

But I'm thinking reverse-aging or rejuvenation is involved in the girl's disease and Cumberbatch's identity. The disease at the very start of the film, which could easily be cut according to one of the actors, is a clue that sets-up who Cumberbatch is: he has reversed-aged somehow.
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Old December 12 2012, 01:47 PM   #2
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Re: Pet theory: reverse aging involved *Spoilers*

Here's one of the relevant descriptions of the girl's condition:

The preview opens in London, Stardate 2259.5. We follow a couple (Nazneen Contractor and Noel Clarke) as they visit their ailing daughter in a hospital. The girl is losing her hair and seems curiously older than her few years. Her condition appears bleak until a stranger appears offering the child's father a chance to save her life. That stranger is Cumberbatch's character.
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/12/1...s-imax-footage

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The film starts with an alarm clock going off, waking a married couple played by Nazneen Contractor and Noel Clarke. They quickly get ready, peeking out their window at the rainy cityscape of London in the year 2259. They drive to the London Children's Hospital to visit their little girl, who appears to be aging prematurely, sick and near-bald, completely unresponsive. Clarke walks outside to catch some air and try to pull himself together, and someone steps up behind him to say, "I can save her." Clarke turns around and we get our first look at Cumberbatch.
http://www.hitfix.com/motion-capture...nswers-nothing
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Old December 12 2012, 05:17 PM   #3
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Re: Pet theory: reverse aging involved *Spoilers*

No buyers, huh? At this point I'd settle for a "Nope" from Dennis/I Am Legion
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Old December 12 2012, 05:30 PM   #4
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Re: Pet theory: reverse aging involved *Spoilers*

I don't think Weller is old Harrison, if only because BC is old enough they would just do aging makeup — Weller looks too different to bother casting that separately.
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Old December 12 2012, 05:42 PM   #5
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Re: Pet theory: reverse aging involved *Spoilers*

I think it's one of the more reasonable theories I've heard. Dunno about Weller being older Cumbercatch, but it's an interesting premise.
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Old December 12 2012, 06:11 PM   #6
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Re: Pet theory: reverse aging involved *Spoilers*

Yeah, I'm not wedded to the idea of Weller being older Cumbercatch. Like I said, that's perhaps a bit too outlandish.

The rest, though, I'm sticking with (for now) as my prediction.
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