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Old December 7 2012, 04:51 AM   #31
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Re: Is Cumberbatch playing Colonel Green?

Haven't you heard? Cumberbatch is playing Shinzon.
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Old December 7 2012, 04:54 AM   #32
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Re: Is Cumberbatch playing Colonel Green?

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I hope I'm not too late for this, but supposedly the villain might have been revealed.

http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/07/09/star...lain-revealed/

At a promotional junket for Dredd, Karl Urban looks to have let slip to SFX who Benedict Cumberbatch is playing in the forthcoming Star Trek sequel. When asked what it was like having the Sherlock actor on set, Urban said:

“He’s awesome, he’s a great addition, and I think his Gary Mitchell is going to be exemplary.”
If that's true, then speculation on a lot of people's part was right.
I cannot remember, did he ever publicly recant that statement? IIRC, another recanted for him, covering for him saying Urban was tired from a flight, or was that Urban doing the recanting?
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Old December 7 2012, 04:55 AM   #33
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Re: Is Cumberbatch playing Colonel Green?

Ooooooh this is from JULY.

Well pfft.
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Old December 7 2012, 05:16 AM   #34
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Harbinger wrote: View Post
I hope I'm not too late for this, but supposedly the villain might have been revealed.

http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/07/09/star...lain-revealed/

At a promotional junket for Dredd, Karl Urban looks to have let slip to SFX who Benedict Cumberbatch is playing in the forthcoming Star Trek sequel. When asked what it was like having the Sherlock actor on set, Urban said:

“He’s awesome, he’s a great addition, and I think his Gary Mitchell is going to be exemplary.”
If that's true, then speculation on a lot of people's part was right.
Actually, it's because of that comment that the Gary Mitchell rumour even began. Bad Robot has since tried to debunk it with vague comments like "he misspoke one word." And so on.

Anyhoo, I have to admit after re-watching the trailer, I have to admit there's something about the way Cumberbatch talks that makes me think "Khan."
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Old December 7 2012, 05:35 AM   #35
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I figure he's Dr. Sevrin . . . or maybe Janice Lester.

Please. Listen to the accent. Look at the scale of the destruction. He's obviously Trelane.
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Old December 7 2012, 05:43 AM   #36
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Anyhoo, I have to admit after re-watching the trailer, I have to admit there's something about the way Cumberbatch talks that makes me think "Khan."
All the known attributes of the character would match up with Khan.

Cumberbatch's appearance is not a "deal killer", as his version of Khan could be Indo-Aryan, who appear more European than the Sikhs or other ethnic subgroups do (in fact, it is in India that we find the root of the "Aryan" ethnicity that was mutated into a more Nordic form by the Nazis).
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Old December 7 2012, 05:52 AM   #37
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Re: Is Cumberbatch playing Colonel Green?

At this late date why does IMBd still say Khan, if he isn't Khan this is ridiculous, it should be known what the name of the villain is, this close to release.
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Old December 7 2012, 06:05 AM   #38
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Re: Is Cumberbatch playing Colonel Green?

Just curious, Blue Trek, is that Mara Jade in your avatar or another character? I saw the red hair and lightsabers and had to ask.
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Old December 7 2012, 06:21 AM   #39
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Just curious, Blue Trek, is that Mara Jade in your avatar or another character? I saw the red hair and lightsabers and had to ask.
Summer Glau as the daughter of Luke and Mara Jade
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Old December 7 2012, 06:22 AM   #40
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At this late date why does IMBd still say Khan, if he isn't Khan this is ridiculous, it should be known what the name of the villain is, this close to release.
It says "Khan (Rumored.)"
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Old December 7 2012, 06:23 AM   #41
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Just curious, Blue Trek, is that Mara Jade in your avatar or another character? I saw the red hair and lightsabers and had to ask.
Summer Glau as the daughter of Luke and Mara Jade
Works for me.
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Old December 7 2012, 11:21 PM   #42
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Re: Is Cumberbatch playing Colonel Green?

It is quite possible that Cumby is playing Colonel Green. He could have indeed escaped and placed himself into suspended animation, hoping to be awakened later and resume his 'ethnic cleansing' as it were.

In fact I think I like the idea of Green better than Gary Mitchell. Gary was simply too powerful. If he shows up, he'd be pretty much unstoppable. Gary's powers are almost on the level of Q, aren't they? You can't fight a Q of course.
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Old December 8 2012, 09:42 AM   #43
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Just curious, Blue Trek, is that Mara Jade in your avatar or another character? I saw the red hair and lightsabers and had to ask.
Summer Glau as the daughter of Luke and Mara Jade
Now THAT is cool.

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Old December 8 2012, 10:21 AM   #44
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Why on Earth would the casual moviegoing audience (whom Abrams is clearly aiming at) know or care who Colonel Green is, or what his backstory from TOS or Enterprise was?
Why on Earth would the casual moviegoing audience (whom Abrams is clearly aiming at) know or care who ANYONE is, or what his backstory from TOS or Enterprise was?

If you go by that logic, you would have to use a newborn baby with no backstory at all as the villain. I mean, EVERYONE has a backstory ... and it will be more or less explained within the movie, weather the character has been in Trek before or not. The audience is not completely stupid, you know?
Exactly! Any TOS villain but Khan will lack name recognition, and even he would not be particularly well known to a fair portion of the "casual moviegoing audience".

It is up to the writers of the film to make the audience know and care about the character, regardless of their history in 45-year-old episodes.
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Old December 8 2012, 02:28 PM   #45
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Re: Is Cumberbatch playing Colonel Green?

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Why on Earth would the casual moviegoing audience (whom Abrams is clearly aiming at) know or care who ANYONE is, or what his backstory from TOS or Enterprise was?
That was my point. People are saying, "It's Khan!" "It's Gary Mitchell!" "It's Garth of Izar!" And now someone's saying, "It's Colonel Green!"...based on the actions of those characters in their respective appearances from a 45 year old TV show (and in the latter's case, also a fairly short clip from a show that barely anyone watched), and flimsily comparing that to a few voiceovers and scenes from the new trailer.

The audience is not completely stupid, you know?
I never said or implied anything of the sort.
Sorry, I must have misunderstood you. I thought you were one of those people who insist that BC can't be a (minor) TOS character because the STID audience would be too stupid to understand his backstory. You know, I'm really tired of that argument ... even standalone movies with no franchise at all behind them have characters with rich background stories, so why should STID not refer to the villains parallel self in TOS? All it takes are a few words to explain where he came from, see TWOK.
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