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Old December 15 2012, 03:55 PM   #901
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Re: The Star Trek Into Darkness teaser trailer is here!

Wouldn't shields protect a ship from water ?
I guess the pressure part is the question, could a shielded space craft withstand the pressure of let's say 2000 ft down into the ocean ?
Is that level of pressure ever expected in space, wouldn't the enginers have built that into a ship that could possibly face that level of atmospheric pressure on a strange planet?
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Old December 15 2012, 08:00 PM   #902
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Federation starships are made from immensely strong and durable substances like duranium and even neutronium so I'd say that yes, they could survive the pressures of being deep underwater.

If a bathysphere just large enough to hold two or three people can be engineered with what amounts to 20th century technology to survive for hours at the bottom of the ocean (12,000 - 36,000 feet at times) and modern military submarines constructed from steel and titanium can safely travel the world's seas at depths sometimes exceeding 2,000 feet then I don't know why a 23rd century starship with technology that borders on magic would be threatened with a few hundred or thousand feet of water on top of it.

And even if for some silly reason the hull were too fragile for simple water pressure the ship has energy shielding. So....it's a non-issue, really.
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Old December 15 2012, 08:49 PM   #903
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Old December 15 2012, 09:53 PM   #904
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This guy had already been pointed out back here, but:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/donnad/move-...r-trek-trailer
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Old December 15 2012, 10:05 PM   #905
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"Hey, mom! I'm on the Holonet right now!

I'm about to get crushed by a falling starship! Call the rest of the family and tell Mike!"
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Old December 16 2012, 06:53 AM   #906
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I am such a sop, I got teary watching this mashup of Into Darkness with TWOK scenes.. very well done.

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Old December 16 2012, 02:50 PM   #907
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Old December 17 2012, 01:33 AM   #908
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Awww..that was great!
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Old December 17 2012, 10:57 AM   #909
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As was yours! I imagine that's how Khan trailer might look if they were doing it today. What I really like about the TOS one is the reaction shots. That cast always gave good face.
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Old December 18 2012, 12:47 PM   #910
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"There were no cgi, shaky cam, or lens flares back then! Pavel never met Khan! The Canon! tm"

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Old December 18 2012, 12:55 PM   #911
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Now, am i the only one who thinks a starship underwater slowly ascending is damn cool!?
It's 'cool', but it is better suited for Starblazers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYd8dC_WDVw

That seems to be the general theme with nuTrek, which is to disregard any and all conventions of Trek and throw whatever they feel like into the mix in a really paint-by-numbers way. Along the way, Trek kind of is no longer Trek. It's just a bunch of guys with the Trek character names and uniforms frantically running from one cliffhanger to the next like they are the Avengers or something. Sells a lot of tickets but kind of destroys the original vision of Star Trek in the process.
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Old December 18 2012, 02:48 PM   #912
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^So you missed the underwater starship scene in Star Trek: Insurrection? You know, where they established the Trek convention that Into Darkness is using...
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Old December 18 2012, 04:15 PM   #913
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Sells a lot of tickets but kind of destroys the original vision of Star Trek in the process.
What was that vision, how was it destroyed and when was the last time we saw it?
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Old December 18 2012, 04:22 PM   #914
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Sells a lot of tickets but kind of destroys the original vision of Star Trek in the process.
You mean Hornblower in Space, like Gene pitched it? Or the "vision" of Trek that people came up with after it aired?
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Old December 18 2012, 04:36 PM   #915
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Sells a lot of tickets but kind of destroys the original vision of Star Trek in the process.
You mean Hornblower in Space, like Gene pitched it? Or the "vision" of Trek that people came up with after it aired?
Neither Gene's initial vision nor the composite that Trek eventually became nor what it became in the TNG era is what nuTrek is. It's none of the above. For some people, that's a good thing, and for others, it's not.
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