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Old December 6 2012, 09:37 PM   #391
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Re: The Star Trek Into Darkness teaser trailer is here!

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I still don't see why some think that the beauty shot of a starship rising form the water would be wasted on anything other than the Enterprise.
A valid point. Putting that much effort into the shot and including in the trailer does mean that this ship is important. So I am guessing that it is either the Enterprise, or perhaps it is the villain's ship/WMD.

It sort of looks like there are nacelles there, but the rest of the ship looks a bit too squashed looking to be the Enterprise. It's a little hard to tell with all the water, beyond that it is some sort of starship.

Or maybe it's the freakin Nautilus and the villain is Captain Nemo.
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Old December 6 2012, 09:40 PM   #392
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Perhaps it's that Terra Prime guy.
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Old December 6 2012, 09:41 PM   #393
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What if that scene with the hands is just some passing moment of no great significance in the film and JJ just ended that trailer with it to have some fun?
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Old December 6 2012, 09:43 PM   #394
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Kirk and Spock get high and feel up the partition walls together?
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Old December 6 2012, 09:44 PM   #395
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Abrams! You plagiarist...


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Old December 6 2012, 09:45 PM   #396
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The nacelle is pretty severely foreshortened by perspective in that shot, which is throwing a lot of people off, but I have no doubt it's the same Enterprise from the last film.
I took that into account. Foreshortening still doesn't account for a complete lack of downward swoop on the engine fin. Plus the glowy thing at the back of the nacelle is higher than the run off at the front. If this were the original engines, sure, foreshortening *might* account for such elevations....but given how huge the front is now, I don't think it could. Also, the wall of water is pretty solid until a certain point, and then you can see the water moving behind the nacelle.

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I think Mad Man 1701 built a 3D model....Maybe we can get some renders from this angle.

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I still don't see why some think that the beauty shot of a starship rising form the water would be wasted on anything other than the Enterprise.

It reminds me how back in the day, when we saw the 2009 trailers, some were saying that it wasn't the Enterprise in the shipyard being built on Earth.
Well people are pretty certain it's not the Enterprise crashing. So two ships end up in water?
From the official synopsis:
"has detonated the fleet and everything it stands for, leaving our world in a state of crisis."

Again, based on this, and the limited info in the trailer, we don't know how many starships are dropped from orbit. Given the epic scale of movie Trek now, it could be many more than two and would also be an epic blow to Starfleet as well as making each falling ship a weapon of mass destruction if it hit a populated area.
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Old December 6 2012, 09:45 PM   #397
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I'm definitely teased. YAY!

It looks like to me the ship that's crashing into the water has taken some damage; it appears that the port nacelle is either burning or glowy, possibly from atmospheric friction or weapons fire.
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Old December 6 2012, 09:45 PM   #398
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"What's this stuff?"

"It's plastic."

"Ah."
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Honestly, why spend millions of dollars on an epic scene for the NCC-One-Seven-Oh-Don't-Mind-Me-I'm-A-Stand-In?

Really?
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Old December 6 2012, 09:48 PM   #400
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The nacelle is pretty severely foreshortened by perspective in that shot, which is throwing a lot of people off, but I have no doubt it's the same Enterprise from the last film.
Are you sure this is the same
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a...ekxihd2374.jpg

as this
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a...ness_hd_25.jpg
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Old December 6 2012, 09:48 PM   #401
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The ship coming out of the water looked like a shuttlecraft.
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Old December 6 2012, 09:49 PM   #402
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Abrams! You plagiarist...


Busted!

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Old December 6 2012, 09:52 PM   #403
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The nacelle is pretty severely foreshortened by perspective in that shot, which is throwing a lot of people off, but I have no doubt it's the same Enterprise from the last film.
Are you sure this is the same
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a...ekxihd2374.jpg

as this
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a...ness_hd_25.jpg

I assume you remember all about the fins and the moving parts on these nacelles when they are active?
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Old December 6 2012, 09:53 PM   #404
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Honestly, why spend millions of dollars on an epic scene for the NCC-One-Seven-Oh-Don't-Mind-Me-I'm-A-Stand-In?
Why not?

I'm not saying it's not the Enterprise. She's, perhaps, just been a bit modified.
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Old December 6 2012, 09:54 PM   #405
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Let's not forget that the design of the Enterprise could be modified.. either between the films, or in the film for a specific purpose (like a water mission). Both types of scenarios have happened in batman films for the Batsuit. In the original films, the suit changed between the films. In the new films, Bruce needed a different suit for functionality reasons. Maybe Starfleet modified the Enterprise to fly in gaseous/ liquid environments after the Nero incident (or because of it) or Kirk was preparing for the mission...
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