Season THREE OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread

[Vasquez Rocks]

filled with specially made bonus features focusing on Star Trek's finest two-parter

Will those same bonus features be included on the season 3 and 4 blu-rays as well or will we have to buy this special set to get them?

[Start Wreck]

Tosk wrote:

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If they really wanted me to flip, the feature length edit of BOBW would also include the opening of DS9's Emissary in the correct spot.

[Robert Comsol]

Tosk wrote:

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"If they really wanted me to flip, the feature length edit of BOBW would also include the opening of DS9's Emissary in the correct spot."

With seamless-branching Blu-ray technology offers the option of watching multiple versions.

Considering CBS did just one Blu-ray disc with Tribbles for TOS (the TOS and TOS-R episode, the TAS episode and the DS9 time travel episode) it would be a nice gesture to give BOBW a similar royal treat, at least as an exception from the rule.

In regard to the supposedly "incorrect" framing of "Sins of the Father" I can't possibly find fault with it, especially since it is the only correct framing during this entire BD release that represents the DP's original intentions because he expected the areas outside the safe action frame to be cropped by the overscan of our 4:3 tube television sets, then.

A properly calibrated flat screen with 1:1 pixel mapping or no overscan will display this episode as it had been intended to be seen by the audience.

The amount of time, money and talent literally wasted to clean up production flaws, especially in the top and bottom areas of the images - areas considered expendable by the DP's because unseen by 4:3 TV audiences - is interesting, to say the least.

Bob

[GalaxyX]

OneBuckFilms wrote:

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If sales figures for Enterprise get close enough to the TNG season set figures, you can bet your bottom dollar that CBS-D will work on restoring DS9 and Voyager for Blu-Ray.

I have yet to see my TNG seasons 1 and 2 blus, as I haven't attained my HDTV and Blu-Ray system, but I am absolutely buying into these sets.

The stills and side-by-sides, plus the details of the staggering work that is going into the project, have my jaw permanently dragging on the floor.

The fact that this is happening at all is a miracle, and if they get to DS9 and Voyager, it'll be glorious.

I doubt Enterprise will get even near the sales that TNG is getting.

But maybe it won't matter, since releasing Enterprise on Blu-Ray is as simple as just copying their masters to Blu-Ray format.

TNG has been a lot of painstaking work, but so far it's been worth it for what we're getting.

I personally wanted more, but happy to get what we have.

[Mott the barber]

[jimbotron]

I wonder if this points to having a BOBW 1+2 Fathom screening. I was hoping for Yesterday's Enterprise and BOBW1, but I'll take the two-parter.

Well, I'm assuming they continue the Fathom screenings - it's a great idea.

I suppose it would be nice to include the second part of any season cliffhanger with the preceding season so the 2-parters are together. But years from now, when all seasons are available together, I doubt it will matter. Changing discs isn't a big deal.

Off-topic - the cover for the Enterprise BD set is a mess. Ugly Photoshop with pasted-on heads. TNG's is much better by comparison.

[TheSeeker]

Tosk wrote:

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If they really wanted me to flip, the feature length edit of BOBW would also include the opening of DS9's Emissary in the correct spot.

Don't worry, I'm not serious...but it'd be cool.

That would actually be pretty cool. I'd still want the episode as it originally aired but this would be an amazing special feature.

[trekker670]

TheSeeker wrote:

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That would actually be pretty cool. I'd still want the episode as it originally aired but this would be an amazing special feature.

Has there been a fan edit of the scenes in question?

[NewHorizon]

trekker670 wrote:

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Has there been a fan edit of the scenes in question?

Not that I've scene, but I wonder how that would fit? There is some pretty fancy stuff going on in that DS9 footage. Would it mesh properly within S3 TNG?

[davejames]

Yeah I'm not sure it would fit that well. Most of the action we see surrounds Sisko and what he's going through, with the giant battle just sort of happening in the background.

Plus, as NewHorizon says, the effects and direction are MUCH more dynamic than what we see in BOBW. It would stand out like a sore thumb.

[Robert Comsol]

NewHorizon wrote:

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"Not that I've scene, but I wonder how that would fit? There is some pretty fancy stuff going on in that DS9 footage. Would it mesh properly within S3 TNG?"

It would, I did a personal edit many years ago. I inserted the VFX battle scenes (and those only!) just before Riker and Shelby arrive on the bridge to see Admiral Hanson's "last man standing" report.

The speed of the Wolf 359 Starfleet vessels is okay as the best VFX scene comes last: This incredible camera pan with the Borg cube just vaporizing the defense drones (in comparison the battle looks almost static).

Bob

[trekker670]

Memory Alpha has a lot of information regarding the production of BOBW. It outlines several deleted scenes (it doesn't mention whether they were cut before or after filming) and a few funny gags, all of which I hope make it to these releases!

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/The_...nd_Information

[BillJ]

Might be releasing a bit much in a one-month timeframe.

[Tosk]

Robert Comsol wrote:

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In regard to the supposedly "incorrect" framing of "Sins of the Father" I can't possibly find fault with it, especially since it is the only correct framing during this entire BD release that represents the DP's original intentions because he expected the areas outside the safe action frame to be cropped by the overscan of our 4:3 tube television sets, then.

It's still not accurate. Every shot that has no SPFX shows less than the old master, and every shot that does contain SPFX shows more info than the old master. So no matter the justification, the transfer is not consistent.

[trekker670]

BillJ wrote:

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Might be releasing a bit much in a one-month timeframe.

More like 2 weeks! I would rather them hold off on ENT until the hiatus between TNG and DS9 and/or DS9 and VOY