London

King Daniel Into Darkness · December 5 2012, 09:41 PM

And all this has made me want to investigate London's prior appearances in the Trekverse!

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/London

Poor London went through hell in Federation's version of World War III, becoming the home base of Colonel Green. It fared much worse in the The Sundered, getting nuked early in their version of WWIII (contrary to Memory Beta's fudging, The Sundered says a nuke detonated directly over the city)

The DTI's HQ is located in Greenwich.

And IIRC, a paper mache version of the city was in one of the old Gold Key comics. There was voodoo.

Anything else not covered here or in the Memory Beta article?

Christopher · December 5 2012, 09:46 PM

I assume the nuclear air burst was at a high enough altitude that the shock wave was reduced and the main effect was EMP knocking out the city's power grid and electronics.

Deranged Nasat · December 6 2012, 12:35 AM

In A Time To Kill, President Zife is at a formal dinner at Buckingham Palace to welcome newly ascended Federation Councillors. And Alpha Centauri has its embassy in London, according to Hollow Men.

Oh, sorry, those are in the article. I just recalled them as references to the city in the current continuity.

Please don't blow up London, I work there.

JD · December 6 2012, 05:08 AM

I'm not sure, but I think I remember seeing a Pre-TOS version of 23rd Century London in an issue of Early Voyages.
EDIT: I scrolled through EV and Untold Voyages on the Comics DVD and I didn't see London anywhere. I might flip through some of the other series, because I'm still pretty sure I remember seeing it in one of the '90s Marvel series. I did however, come across scenes set in New York, Sydney, and Venice, none of which we have ever seen on screen.

lvsxy808 · December 6 2012, 10:31 AM

Deranged Nasat wrote:

Please don't blow up London, I work there.

I'm there right now...

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Dimesdan · December 6 2012, 11:23 AM

Deranged Nasat wrote:

Please don't blow up London, I work there.

It's nice to visit occasionally, but for this country bumpkin, it's a big scary place!

lurok · December 6 2012, 11:48 AM

I know it's not London but was nice to briefly see future Cambridge in ATG

Deranged Nasat · December 6 2012, 12:10 PM

Dimesdan wrote:

Deranged Nasat wrote:

Please don't blow up London, I work there.

It's nice to visit occasionally, but for this country bumpkin, it's a big scary place!

To tell you the truth, it's too big and scary for me, too. I don't like cities; I'd rather be out in the country.

Markonian · December 6 2012, 02:01 PM

Deranged Nasat wrote:

To tell you the truth, it's too big and scary for me, too. I don't like cities; I'd rather be out in the country.

Yeah, we Trekkies are not so much for crowded places, we prefer space.

Curiously, the Announcement Trailer does not show anything readily identifiable as London. Looks more like the action is taking place in San Francisco.

Christopher · December 6 2012, 03:03 PM

Yeah, I imagine London must be scary, what with the frequent attacks by Daleks, Cybermen, Autons, Zygon Loch Ness Monster androids, Slitheen, Weeping Angels, and the like.

Although I hear such incidents get particularly bad in Ealing...

lurok · December 6 2012, 03:08 PM

This is still considered by many to be the most terrifying attack on London.

Christopher · December 6 2012, 03:17 PM

^Awesome! I mean, err, how horribly tragic! What's that from?

Ktrek · December 6 2012, 03:22 PM

That's very funny jinglebellrok! I love British comedy!

Kevin

lurok · December 6 2012, 03:26 PM

A cult BBC comedy show from 70s I've heard described as 'Monty Python for kids'. It's one of those classic TV moments that gets repeated a lot here

Christopher · December 6 2012, 05:10 PM

^Okay, but what's it called?

December 5 2012, 09:41 PM	#1
King Daniel Into Darkness Admiral Location: Behind the aft nacelle	London The ruined city in the Star Trek Into Darkness poster is London. Ben Cumberbatch's mysterious villain is standing on a pile of rubble where the Tower of London is now. And all this has made me want to investigate London's prior appearances in the Trekverse! http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/London Poor London went through hell in Federation's version of World War III, becoming the home base of Colonel Green. It fared much worse in the The Sundered, getting nuked early in their version of WWIII (contrary to Memory Beta's fudging, The Sundered says a nuke detonated directly over the city) The DTI's HQ is located in Greenwich. And IIRC, a paper mache version of the city was in one of the old Gold Key comics. There was voodoo. Anything else not covered here or in the Memory Beta article? __________________ Star Trek Imponderables, fun mashups of Trek's biggest continuity errors! Ep1, Ep2 and Ep3

December 5 2012, 09:46 PM	#2
Christopher Writer	Re: London I assume the nuclear air burst was at a high enough altitude that the shock wave was reduced and the main effect was EMP knocking out the city's power grid and electronics. __________________ Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Updated 5/28/13 with discussion of Rise of the Federation Book 1. Written Worlds -- My blog

December 6 2012, 12:35 AM	#3
Deranged Nasat Vice Admiral Location: Warped off into the sunset. With fond memories of most of you, and not a little sorrow at leaving.	Re: London In A Time To Kill, President Zife is at a formal dinner at Buckingham Palace to welcome newly ascended Federation Councillors. And Alpha Centauri has its embassy in London, according to Hollow Men. Oh, sorry, those are in the article. I just recalled them as references to the city in the current continuity. Please don't blow up London, I work there. __________________ We are all the sum of our tears. Too little and the ground is not fertile and nothing can grow there; too much, the best of us is washed away. Last edited by Deranged Nasat; December 6 2012 at 12:46 AM.

December 6 2012, 05:08 AM	#4
JD Admiral Location: Arizona, USA	Re: London I'm not sure, but I think I remember seeing a Pre-TOS version of 23rd Century London in an issue of Early Voyages. EDIT: I scrolled through EV and Untold Voyages on the Comics DVD and I didn't see London anywhere. I might flip through some of the other series, because I'm still pretty sure I remember seeing it in one of the '90s Marvel series. I did however, come across scenes set in New York, Sydney, and Venice, none of which we have ever seen on screen. __________________ Over the course of many encounters and many years, I have successfully developed a standard operating procedure for dealing with big, nasty monsters. Run away. Me and Monty Python. Harry Dresden - Blood Rites (The Dresden Files #6) Last edited by JD; December 6 2012 at 05:52 AM.

December 6 2012, 11:48 AM	#7
lurok Commodore Location: Lost In The EU Expanse	Re: London I know it's not London but was nice to briefly see future Cambridge in ATG __________________ “Between ennui and ecstasy unwinds our whole experience of time.”

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December 6 2012, 03:03 PM	#10
Christopher Writer	Re: London Yeah, I imagine London must be scary, what with the frequent attacks by Daleks, Cybermen, Autons, Zygon Loch Ness Monster androids, Slitheen, Weeping Angels, and the like. Although I hear such incidents get particularly bad in Ealing... __________________ Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Updated 5/28/13 with discussion of Rise of the Federation Book 1. Written Worlds -- My blog

December 6 2012, 03:08 PM	#11
lurok Commodore Location: Lost In The EU Expanse	Re: London This is still considered by many to be the most terrifying attack on London. __________________ “Between ennui and ecstasy unwinds our whole experience of time.”

December 6 2012, 03:17 PM	#12
Christopher Writer	Re: London ^Awesome! I mean, err, how horribly tragic! What's that from? __________________ Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Updated 5/28/13 with discussion of Rise of the Federation Book 1. Written Worlds -- My blog

December 6 2012, 03:22 PM	#13
Ktrek Captain	Re: London That's very funny jinglebellrok! I love British comedy! Kevin __________________ "Oh...Well, Who am I to argue with me?" Dr. Bashir - Visionary - Deep Space Nine

December 6 2012, 03:26 PM	#14
lurok Commodore Location: Lost In The EU Expanse	Re: London A cult BBC comedy show from 70s I've heard described as 'Monty Python for kids'. It's one of those classic TV moments that gets repeated a lot here __________________ “Between ennui and ecstasy unwinds our whole experience of time.”

December 6 2012, 05:10 PM	#15
Christopher Writer	Re: London ^Okay, but what's it called? __________________ Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Updated 5/28/13 with discussion of Rise of the Federation Book 1. Written Worlds -- My blog