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Old December 2 2012, 09:50 AM   #16
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Re: Life Line: "five or six years?"

They can do any damn thing they want...

Cause they got a little 'ole convoy
Rockin through the night
Yeah they got a little 'ole convoy
Ain't she a beautiful sight
C'mon and join their Convoy
Ain't nothin gonna get in their way
they're gonna roll this trekking convoy 'cross the Delta Quadrant
Convoy....Convoy.....
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Old December 2 2012, 10:28 AM   #17
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Re: Life Line: "five or six years?"

If two larger ships did meet up with voyager there are alot of things they could do to help the crew and ship.

For one repair damaged areas on and in the ship.

Two resupply Voyager with fuel and energy so that the repicaters could make the ship self reliant again.


three send a doctor or even a nurse to help the emergency hologram doctor.

And any other number of things i did not list here.
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Old December 2 2012, 11:16 AM   #18
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Re: Life Line: "five or six years?"

If they sent a real Doctor over, he or she would turn off the EMH because that know it all safety net is entirely insulting to the pedigree of their education.

Voyager didn't get so damaged that the ship wasn't spick and span the next week.

The ship is powered by deuterium(heavy water, Ie tap water shot through a super collider.) and antimatter, both of which are technically and supposedly existing in an abundance in space if you have the patience to refine it from crude.
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Old December 2 2012, 11:54 AM   #19
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Re: Life Line: "five or six years?"

Starfleet is supposed to be about exploration, so they have ships outside their core territory too, pushing further and further out. The difference being that they signed up for long missions, as opposed to Voyager's planned 2-week Maquis hunting mission.
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Old December 2 2012, 10:18 PM   #20
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Re: Life Line: "five or six years?"

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What were the deep space vessels going to do when they showed up?
Ohh wouldn't you like to know....
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Old December 2 2012, 10:28 PM   #21
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Re: Life Line: "five or six years?"

Yes, I would.

Escorting them back over decades is a huge waste of resources. You have 3 ships exploring the same territory.

Fixing stuff and dropping off personnel seems kind of weird.. here's some groceries, see you in twenty years.

If these ships are both huge and fast then they should take on VOY's crew and complete their mission which I'd imagine would involve returning home by then. Voyager itself should be blown up to prevent the technology falling into the wrong hands (a very dumb thing to do but that's what would happen).
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Old December 2 2012, 10:49 PM   #22
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Re: Life Line: "five or six years?"

There is a basic problem with the "faster than a meeping roadrunner" theory: When it left, Voyager was the fastest kid on the block. So unless Hayes doesn't read the Starfleet Gazette, it's improbable that there are six years later ships so fast that they could go 5-6 times faster than Voyager (if we assume that there are still 30k light years to reach Voyager)

So, were the ships so close to Voyager's position that they could actually reach them in 5-6 years? What then, as teacake asks very astutely? What kind of help can they give, besides taking around 120 passengers and either go on with their mission or spend a few decades going back to Federation space?

There might be a fanfic in there...

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Old December 3 2012, 12:00 AM   #23
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Re: Life Line: "five or six years?"

Fast is a relative term. If these ships are 20 years from the Federation that means that they left about 20 years ago, which is a long ago time when Ambassador class Starships were the bees knees... That is if they would waste state of the art ships on a 60 year long suiside mission like this.

Are they together?

Or did Hayes say 5 or 6 years because these two ships are in very different parts of space a long way away from each other, that one will show up in 5 years and the other in 6 years give or take a few months?

Bigger ships can stay in open space longer and take a more direct route home. Voyager has to hug against a lot of alien empires to guarantee a constant supply of resources... Three ships with pooled resources could ignore a lot of unsavoury and dangerous ports of call, "lets skip this planet, they look like assholes" which means that they could get home much faster even if these twenty year old ships "sustainable" top speed is just warp 8.

Ever gone for a big walk with a fatty or a three year old?

You're walking at regular speed for a full minute, only to turn around and see that your fatty or 3 year old is 20 meters behind you screaming that they don't want to be abandoned, so you have to sit down for 5 minutes to wait for them, or actually retrace your steps.
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Old December 3 2012, 01:16 AM   #24
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Re: Life Line: "five or six years?"

I can't imagine spending 20 years trapped on a ship with a thousand people. People's usual midlife crisis timetable must be altered by longer lifespans, no currency and holo entertainment. Imagine you're 25 and you sign on for this incredible go where no man has gone before tour of duty.. 15 years later you want to kill yourself. You hate everyone you work with, you can no longer convince yourself that holo-Risa satisfies, and every failed relationship brings you closer to actually running out of people you might have something in common with. Island fever and there's no way off the island.

You are sent to the ship's counselor after your jerkness starts pissing off your colleagues and you get a speech about Starfleet and how meaningful it is to be an explorer. And every single day is exactly the same.
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Old December 3 2012, 03:14 AM   #25
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Re: Life Line: "five or six years?"

The other other way to go is one guy, or one girl on the ship alone.

No failed relationships.

Just someone who wants to spend forty years alone.
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Old December 3 2012, 03:29 AM   #26
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Re: Life Line: "five or six years?"

Sure someone might want to spend 40 years alone but if they find an amiable planet to spend those 40 years the mission might end up abandoned. Unless you find someone with the mentality of a japanese soldier refusing to abandon their jungle post.
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Old December 3 2012, 03:39 AM   #27
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Humans and their philosophy of self improvement.

Remember Riker was offered his own ship in Icarus, and his dad was proud for the first time in his life, but the monkey turned it down because the ship was already signed up for a few years of deep space survey missions in the boondocks which was hardly as classy as waiting for Picard to have a stroke or a really bad hernia.

That ship they offered him was humorously converted into debris by the Borg at Wolf 359... Am I conflating again?
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Old December 3 2012, 03:45 AM   #28
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No one is ever going to remember these deep space survey missions unless they find God. Riker is too shallow to spend a decade of his life doing real science, he only wants flashy science that makes headlines and for that he needs to be on a ship in the thick of things.

It's sad though that this opportunity to assimilate him for the betterment of Trek was not followed through on.

Anyone wanting to spend 40 years alone doing science is already outside of the ratrace of self improvement.
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Old December 3 2012, 11:28 AM   #29
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Re: Life Line: "five or six years?"

These ships clearly had the TOS-style warp drive installed. Rim of the galaxy, centre of the galaxy, Earth to Vulcan in a blink... no biggie.
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Old December 3 2012, 11:53 AM   #30
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We don't talk about that part of canon KingDaniel.
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