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Old December 8 2012, 06:10 AM   #46
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It did fall into the Borgs hands.

Annorax is in living in Seven's head. Annorax is living in a lot of Drones minds.

Do you think it a coincidence that First Contact was set minutes before the start of season 4 when seven joined the crew when she uploaded Annoraxes personality hich was perhaps one of the last infopackets she would have harvested from the Collective?
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Old December 9 2012, 09:01 AM   #47
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It did fall into the Borgs hands.

Annorax is in living in Seven's head. Annorax is living in a lot of Drones minds.

Do you think it a coincidence that First Contact was set minutes before the start of season 4 when seven joined the crew when she uploaded Annoraxes personality hich was perhaps one of the last infopackets she would have harvested from the Collective?
Annorax was a member of the Krenium science dept., plus he was creating the equation to be turned into a weapon. So ALLOT of Krenium scientists and top military brass knew the equation for the Borg to get their hands on it. They mention there were assimilated Krenium scientists in "Unimatrix Zero".
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Old December 9 2012, 10:10 AM   #48
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Google word search disagrees with you sir.

http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=sit...-GB%3Aofficial.

Sorry.

Have you ever wondered if Anorax was purposely hovering before the launch of the temporal weapon, afraid of some competition, even though the tech level of the Krenim was constantly changing that more temporal weapons weren't also leaving the universe to destroy their enemies at unpredictably accelerated timetables?

Maybe the weapon doesn't launch until 2380, or he sabotages any competition in it's infancy? Surely his wife's destruction means that he too is dead if they were living together happily? As if "time" personally would taunt Annorax like that! there was some agent making him chase his own tail while guaranteeing that there is no council of crosstime Anoraxes dividing up the universe into duchies.

However without the first target, the Rilnar to tackle maybe the following universes didn't have the same drive to invent a temporal weapon so devastating like the "original" universe Annorax came from?

Consider... If someone removed the Jews in the 17th century, would the NAZIs have risen to power so easily or quickly or at all without such a convenient scapegoat? But then really, for their needs, almost anyone would have sufficed to fill the Semitic vacuum.
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Old December 9 2012, 06:02 PM   #49
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Annorax made the weapon in the 22nd century, not the 24th.
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Old December 9 2012, 08:10 PM   #50
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It's a time machine.

The time machine was hovering over a year when the Anorax's wife was the same age as he was-ish.

Did he want her back 200 years older, or did he want her back dead and buried?

Neither.

He wanted the gal back at 40, so that he could walk back into her life and bedroom, right after he had killed or misplaced her real husband.
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Old December 10 2012, 02:04 AM   #51
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Well, Annorax was pretty nutty by "Year of Hell" so his actions don't really have to make rational sense anymore...
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Old December 10 2012, 04:06 AM   #52
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They made sense to Chakotay who called Annorax "a great man".

It's like there's no coolaide this *&^% won't drink.
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Old December 10 2012, 05:58 PM   #53
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It was simply a matter of the writers going "eh..let's not deal with that, it's a bit icky", trying to come up with in universe explanations is pointless as I highly doubt Menosky and Braga did, still an excellent episode.
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Old December 10 2012, 07:24 PM   #54
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I rented "Year of Hell" on a cross-country Virgin flight a year or so ago for three or four bucks. Hadn't seen it in years but remembered it fondly, expecting to be entertained. What I got was some of the most inert non-drama I'd ever seen. When Janeway told the remaining crew they'd be safer and have a better chance of "making alliances" and reaching home in escape pods - escape pods! - than on a still-functioning ship, no matter how damaged or crowded, I snorted in disbelief and gave up entirely. Airplane sleep was a more appealing prospect than Part Deux.

If "Year of Hell" is edgy Voyager, I think I'll stick with safe Voyager.
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Old December 10 2012, 07:55 PM   #55
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Google word search disagrees with you sir.

http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=sit...-GB%3Aofficial.

Sorry.
Sorry, I really don't have the time to sit and read that whole thing to find out what the disagreement is. Would you mind just highlighting the point and just posting that portion instead?
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Old December 10 2012, 09:07 PM   #56
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The google word search was for "Kremin" on a Voyager transcript site. The word Krenim has only been used in Year of Hell, before and after and infinite recess, and not Unimatrix Zero. If you followed the link, it only shows you three episode titles. Thats it.

Not a lot of reading, and it's a very useful tool for finding quotes and confirming information we have long since forgotten or misplaced.
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Old December 11 2012, 06:02 AM   #57
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The google word search was for "Kremin" on a Voyager transcript site. The word Krenim has only been used in Year of Hell, before and after and infinite recess, and not Unimatrix Zero. If you followed the link, it only shows you three episode titles. Thats it.

Not a lot of reading, and it's a very useful tool for finding quotes and confirming information we have long since forgotten or misplaced.
Oh,pardon me.
Then it was "Infinite Regress".
I knew it was some ep. that had a Borg theme.
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Old December 11 2012, 08:07 AM   #58
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I did say "sorry".

How often does that happen?

Thing is, I could easily see how there could be Krenim in Unimatrix Zero... Or Flesh and Blood for that matter.
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